On the campaign trail with Trump, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Russell Brand and more.
I identify as a charismatic, evangelical, born-again member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Anti-Family Agenda in America.
of cardio Miracle uh and good friend and and I'm looking forward to hearing your
analysis on things and what you think think is going to be I don't know what's
the Outlook of America here after the election well we'll talk a lot of politics today we won't have we don't
need to talk much about cardio Miracle but I've had the most extraordinary two months um of my lifetime um we were
involved you may have known we were involved with sponsoring the Tucker Carlson Glenn Beck event in solag City
the week after Labor Day and um from that my son who happens to be a professional entertainer of great uh
note um was they were I I made a part of my sponsorship that he open as the MC or
the opening act I got a lot of push back but I finally made them do that because
I I sponsored at such a level and uh after 15 minutes when he opened the show
and standing ovation to God Bless the USA the head of the tour came and said oh my gosh he says we want you for every
show so we we traveled all over the country I don't know if we've even talked since then maybe we've done one
no I don't well I don't think we've talked about that well we we went all over the country with Tucker Carlson
Russell Brand um Megan Kelly was Russell Brand involved with that Russell I have
I have seriously we should we should post I'll have my wife or staff send you the video with me and Russell Brand it
is hysterical um I I had you didn't do any ice baths with him or anything no no no
no but you know you know what's interesting Greg and and and this is actually a very salient
topic Russell Brand is a born again Christian in the last seven months he's
gone from you know being whatever he was a runchy comedian actor whatever funny
guy but he is a devout born again and we actually have a picture of him he was
baptized by Bear Grills who was the you know the great Adventurer out of England
he was baptized a Christian and then he is baptizing a friend in his whitey
tidies in his underwear because they said why are you baptizing somebody in your underwear he says because I didn't
want my clothes to get wet he says it was a spontanous situation he he is absolutely
hysterical and uh in between his espousing his new found Christian uh
values and his love for America's Freedom uh he was at uh the Phoenix
event for Tucker Carlson and then they brought him back again in Sunrise which
is uh just outside of Fort Lauderdale and uh he was there as well
and I had a chance because my son was the opening uh Entertainer for that and so any of your listeners who happened to
go to the Phoenix event with Donald Trump last Thursday my son went from 13
minutes by me forcing him in front of the Tucker team not Tucker but the tour
director's team to at the Trump event he had 45 minutes and most people most
people felt like his performance was the highlight of the night because unfortunately Trump started rambling a
little bit about uh his good friends Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney and uh you
know he gets he gets sidetracked with some of the people that he's not very happy with and uh instead of staying on
message he gets carried away which which is really one of his at least at least
we can say we know he's flawed but I'll tell you what um we we went all over the
country with these Patriots and these these great evangelicals and Christian
supporters and and a nice group of LDS people one of the exciting things was as
we got to know Tucker a little bit is uh I had a chance to to visit with him
briefly one of the first nights in the in his dressing room and he goes are you a Mormon and I said I'm a charismatic
Evangelical Born Again member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latterday saints that's my new pronoun I'm taking
back the charismatic the angelical and the Born Again side from our Brethren I'm I'm going to share in that and I now
actually Greg have Temple sealers former Mission presidents some of my most
conservative down the line Straight Arrow LDS Brethren and sisters saying I
want to identify with you we need to open up the doors and and literally I I I don't want to act it had nothing to do
with me but it really was an inspired uh approach as I'm working with these evangelicals because when I
identify that when they ask me when I'm Salt Lake are you a Mormon Etc I say no I'm I'm I actually identify as a
charismatic Evangelical Born Again member first thing they say is when we are born again and I tell them July 9th
1970 Melbourne Australia which happens to be when I received my testimony in the mission field and so it is the
greatest missionary door opener I have ever seen and I've spent a lifetime of doing missionary work but it completely
takes the defenses down completely and it opens up the opportunity to talk about the nature of God it it's
phenomenal in fact I was talking to my dear dear friend uh 80y old former Mission president former uh Visitor
Center president stalwart and I I shared it with him yes to days ago and he goes
he says John I I should take that to the missionary committee he said that he said if the elders knocked on their door
and they said hi we're representatives of the charismatic Evangelical Born Again membership of the Church of Jesus
Christ the latterday Saints he said it would be over the moon and I said it just came to me strangely enough about a
year ago on a cruise ship when I was trying to figure out how I could have a
gospel discussion with Pastor Jim Ryan the former mile Runner you know silver
Olympian guy who got tripped in Munich when he should have won the world's uh world the gold medal and also six term
most conservative Congressman in America from Kansas when I met Jim we were
having dinner and he said to me he says you know uh Salt Lake you don't drink you don't smoke uh are you a Mormon and
I said well I identify as a charismatic Evangelical Born Again member of the church and he goes when were you born
again and I told him and that has proven almost without
exception to open the door and we talked and then I was able then he said to me I don't know if I I hope I'm not repeating
myself but then he said well how do you feel about Joseph Smith and the magic glasses and I said probably the same way
we both feel about boses parting the Red Sea with a staff I said some things we don't understand he goes H interesting
and I said do you know what the Mormon The Book of Mormon is and he goes actually I really
don't for 30 minutes I was able to tell him the promise to Abraham the promise
through uh Israel blessing his son Joseph the teachings of Abraham being
promised to the descends to the house of Israel that the Book of Mormon was the record of of Israelites that were
happened to live in the Americas we won't argue about which part of the Americas to the Americas and um and that
there was their history and they actually testified of Christ and he was sitting there totally open and blown
away because even though he had served in Congress and had people in his district and everything he had never had
a normal non-defensive conversation about the church and the gospel and it
has opened up it has opened up conversations where I was able to even say to him well Jim share with me why do
you good folks ascribe to the Nan Creed and they go oh well we we follow the
apostolic Creed I said well you know let's be fair here the apostolic Creed is merely an apologist you know trying
to tie in the Nan Creed with an apostle instead of a pagan leader who made the
political decision to go along with nicely and greed and he goes well you probably got a point there and it opened
up the opportunity of talking about the nature of God one of the greatest to me
to me the most significant one of the handful of significant events of the first Vision
was the nature of God and the fact that God answered prayers of a young petitioning Joseph Smith and that he
appeared father and the son which is only logical we all know it's logical
but our friends on the other side of the aisle of the Christian world the Catholicism and everything else they
don't have the slightest idea what God is or the savior is they it's confusing with all of the references and the
praying to the father and the son and the if you've seen me you've seen the father and the if we're one Spirit blah
blah blah it really has led to some of the most wonderful conversations and I
believe bridge building for people to understand that the gospel isn't uh the
restored gospel 1.0 it's Christianity 10.0 with other additional insights and
inspiration that ties to prophets and the Gathering of Israel etc etc etc and
it gives you opportunity to explain what the temple really is to explain what all the things that we try to do as a church
and that Jose that we don't worship Joseph Smith that the name of the church is the Church of Jesus Christ so it's
been a really wonderful missionary and patriotic situation because I believe I
I just am part of that old school that believes that the founding of our country was divine that uh George
Washington was shot numerous times in the French Indian War and didn't die and he should have been you know his coat
was riddled with bullets his horses shot out from under him they crossed the they crossed the Delaware when they should
have all perished the war should have ended multiple times and we have a divine right and that's why I and my
company and the things that we're doing um that's why I've supported Patriot groups and people who are trying to get
us back to the fundamental principles that this is a judeo-christian founded country based
upon the Lord's Divine guidance that allowed us to understand and this is why
it's so distressing when Latter Day Saints become woke and become more concerned about being globalists as
opposed to being concerned about being emissaries of the restored gospel and
the Gathering of the 10 TR yeah you know you you talk about uh bridge building I you I was just reading
what is it come follow me this last week or the week before I can't remember if it's in the end of Mormon or beginning
of ether with Moroni talking but it's it talks about how the The Book of Mormon
actually those that believe the Book of Mormon will believe the Bible and you
look at what's happening with Christianity right now where it's it's all of it all across the board right we're losing people left and right right
doesn't matter the denomination you've got a number of denominations going woke and and and that just means that's a
that's death right to to to the to the denomination but it's and then you have others that just are Falling Away covid
really hurt Christianity in the sense that it was you know so much of Christianity and and church for anyone
is community and so you knock that out and then you're kind of like well you know I've even spoken to some members
and they're like well I just kind of felt like I didn't need to go back it's a Playbook yeah but but but so you see
Christianity kind of dropping and and I think as members of the church we need to see this more often right it's not us
and then them completely I mean there's some ways you can look at it that way it is it is Christianity more broadly they
are part of the prophecies not just us they're part of the prophecies they have
the Stick of Judah at a minimum right we just happen to have both the Stick of Judah and the Book of Mormon and in the
Book of Mormon it says that those who believe the Book of Mormon will believe
the Bible and so second witness exactly yeah it's a second witness but it's it's
also I think those that may lose faith in Christianity may lose faith in the
Bible itself can be brought back through by coming through the Book of Mormon and
there's flaws everywhere you know it's really interesting to me I I happened to meet a very prominent um Pastor uh last
weekend I was in Yuba City with Pastor Dave briyan and Cheryl Bryan two of the
finest people I've ever met in my life I never met really such loving Christlike
people they're taking in the homeless they're taking in the prisoners into their Church they're taking in the unwed
mothers they're feeding the homeless and the H hungry every day I mean they are living it at at at the absolute
fantastic they're they they just are buying a low security prison that is
going to be used to help treat and to give comfort and first class treatment
to abused children they're actually purchasing a facility that is going to
be where these abused children are going to be able to go and have a tremendous rehabilitative situation so these are
active active Christians but while I was there it was interesting I I met a fellow whose father was one of the
preeminent evangelist in the country television International um out of the
South and he was a contemporary of Pastor Jim Baker who I now know and also
uh Jimmy Swagger who I don't know but all three of them ended up at a what we
used to call I don't know I B maybe I I probably shouldn't use the term but a firing squad where everyone shoots each
other and um and because they all committed adultery and I and yet these
were people who have unbelievable records of healings miracles
evangelic bringing hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people to Christ throughout the world and yet they were
flawed people and and yet we we get so hung up and and there's so many people
who are critical of us because they hear of the Rogue scoutm or the Rogue bishop
or State president or whatever the you know I mean I I have to always look at the characters that of of one of the
podcasts out there that's always saying this person was a bishop in the church well hey I was a bishop in the church
when I was 26 years old I mean that's that's how desperate they were in Taylorville in those days but the the
reality is we're all just people you know we all we all are sinners we are
all Beggars before the Lord and it's been so interesting to me to be a part
of my own Revival and the Revival you know Co had all of its problems but it
awakened about 35 to 40% of the citizens of this country and that's why we saw
the result we saw uh on Tuesday that from some of those people who finally
said you know what the prophecies about gatans are true because guess what
they're everywhere they're not just they're just not the big corporations they're they're everything they're
everywhere and that's what the book says the Book of Mormon that most of us describe as a Cornerstone of our
religion they're everywhere and we need to discern turn good versus evil right
versus wrong and it's not right versus left it's good versus evil and if you
can't see the evil agenda that is an agenda that's anti-family
anti uh son or daughter of God specifically genetically uh marriage in
the family um you know really we we need that we
need I don't know how much good they're going to be able to do in the next couple years but from my reports I I'm
hearing reports on the inside because I know a bunch of these people there it's gonna shake it's gonna shake up
Washington and the world to its core in the next few months because they learned
a lot from four years ago and I actually have had kind of this Epiphany because I was really distressed over all the good
things that I felt happen from 216 to 2000 in our world our economy Etc but
there were way too many rhinos there were way too many people giving bad advice and and the president's a very
imperfect person let's just say that but he has some very unique unique qualities
that make him almost the only person who could have pulled this off and I think I
think personally it gives us a couple of year reprieve and we're going to see some interesting things but we're going
to see some some violent push back from the establishment and evil because but
as evil increases Greg I'm seeing the light increasing but the the the space
in between is cavernous here here's the thing I I I say and I think that's all
true um I I think that there will be a wall of adversity that is trying to come
crush crushing down on everything uh there is an establishment they want what
they want already the powers that they have already the money that they have already the positions that they have
already it's not a mistake and this is I'm not trying to be partisan here but it's not a mistake that Washington DC
voted 94% for kamla Harris that is absolutely
insane right it's like not 6040 right it's 94% but
the I I I don't you know it it just it's just come
out that uh the FBI released some information that uh there have been
several assassination attempts uh oh yeah uh that have been
stopped by the FBI from Iran yeah from Iran right so there are and that's just
what they've told us the question I would say is what about other organizations other countries others
that do not want to have this whole change uh happen with the country or
within the global order right I I I uh you know I was uh I know this for a fact
I had uh and you've probably seen this also but they're when you look at who is
around those events with him there are the Secret Service and then there's
another group of people that that look very different and they're oftentimes in
green or black and they look like Navy Seals and they look like they are
absolute veterans they probably are are are combat veterans uh they carry themselves very
differently and they are walking around and I have never seen anything like it it is completely different from the
suited uh uh you know just it's the way they carry themselves is completely different and I think he's gonna have to
do that if he doesn't add on additional security I don't think I'm worried I'm
worried John I don't I'm worried he's not make it to the inauguration well a lot of people are but I know who those
people are I you know I don't claim to be some I I because of my relationship
with u Dr David Martin and some other people I've met some really interesting people and and there's a group of
Patriots out there that are very well funded uh from their own circumstance
and uh they've been they've been essentially engaged for the last couple of years in in adding additional layers
of protection and uh I I think that will continue because you know the real
Patriots at their heart realize that this is life and death of people but
also of our country and of our Republic and it really is and they view things
differently there's some of us that say well the second coming is going to come it's going to get worse and then the
others say well no it's going to take 50 years what I I don't buy that myself I
think I think all the signs are there that you know we're on borrowed time May a 10e clock or less whatever uh but all
I know is that it's a time for people to stand up for what's right and wrong to
teach their children and their grandchildren the principles that they're not getting taught in their
schools and in some cases in their Church classes and in their other and the universities and everything else and
we've you've got you've been really great one of the illuminating lights on the problems that we've seen at some of
our church institutions um and so it's our responsibility and one of the great
things that happened actually on this thing is um I saw family members of my own family who stopped thinking I had
lost my mind and they actually be because they listened they actually went
through their own conversion of how serious the problem is that I've been telling them about for the last SE five
six seven years as you were on this uh these last couple months and you were going around
it was Tucker Carlson you were with Tucker Carlson so you're you're with and and you're traveling around what what
are some of the insights you saw with running a campaign you know what what it
looks to me it's got to be just a massive ordeal of management it's I'll
tell you what's really what's one of the most interesting is Charlie Kirk I had
heard about Charlie Kirk he lives there in in uh you know part of Phoenix that is like the most dangerous part of
Phoenix he doesn't live there he lives in Scottsdale like you but he he his office is like this barricade it's
almost like a a a commercial office prison that that and and I had a tour of
the offices I met his people all the video and Studio stuff unbeliev yeah
I've I've been there oh it's unbelievable I know the guy that runs that yeah and we were there and they and
they had Booth after booth and they were talking about that their focus was on the uh you know 70,000 or the 30,000
people people who didn't vote the time before I mean they they're so precise there was so much strategy there's so
much money being spent on this Grassroots you know a lot of it in your state of Arizona that still is having a
problem uh getting the vote counted which is unbelievable in our country but see those things are going to change
because the feds now with this change uh and and the good strong over it's it's
going to be very difficult for one or two Sen s to hold up the rest now that's
going to happen because Joe Mansion or you know they'll be they'll be and from
a supreme court standpoint oh my gosh this and appointing judges so there's so
many things that were sake but when I watched the the um tactical campaign
work of Charlie Kirk's Turning Point organization and moms for America moms
for America they they've overturned all kinds of things at the Grassroots level they have hundreds of thousands of
everyday Housewives just like the Glenn Campbell song You know here are the
things of the everyday housewife moms for America one of the great Patriot organizations Kimberly Fletcher who
actually is LDS active LDS but the majority of her her support shamelessly
comes from evangelicals instead of LDS and she works for practically nothing
has eight children grandchildren and she is on the road 300 days a year trying to
save our country we we met some of the most wonderful people and and that the
there are so many people involved in that because look at I mean I just got a
text from my friend who was the former head of ABC 4 here in Utah who's had a
conversion since the pandemic in the middle of the pandemic he realized that all the stuff that he had been involved
in he was a big shot uh and he is like so outspoken in his retirement because he sees the damage but it was
interesting saying KLA spent a billion dollars and was 20 20 million in debt
they they spent so much money George Soros uh Mark Cuban all of these people
just poured so much money in to try to help prop up this this effort of Last
Stand type of thing and to have it be successful even with you know I'm sorry
call me a conspiracy there still was election fraud there's no reason to be mailing in ballots a month ahead that's
nonsense when are we going to go back we went in in St George to vote and there was a line down the street and we moved
in and out of there in a half hour they were organized to the max they were phenomenal phenomenal so I think we're
going to see some interesting things change uh because now uh we know what we're dealing with and uh it's the thing
that's interesting is there's nothing that violates the Constitution and the
Bill of Right the actual documents that were actually written that people have made that a Supreme Court decision 50
years ago is the Constitution it's not the con Ro be Wade wasn't the Constitution for heaven's sakes any
constitutional scholar worth his weight will tell you it had no constitutional basis it was a political decision but
you know what Greg we have a responsibility to stand up for life to stand up for patriotism we have a right
a reason to stand up and and and encourage the Brethren our Bishops our
state presidents we should be singing the Patriotic hymns in our country they should be singing them in Canada they
should be singing them in Japan but we don't have to go Global uh as an
individual congregations even though the church has a very complex situation they've got to deal you know with the
entire global situation what do you think is going to happen you've got uh you know at least
for the campaign Trump put together kind of a very interesting team right he the Vic
Coalition Coalition okay T no one has ever done before no one has ever done
before but here's the thing most of those people outside of Tulsi Gabbert who who was a congresswoman from Hawaii
none of them are Washington Insiders oh that might be good my question is is
how much of that is going to uh there's going to be massive
ripples from that if these are people that are gon to be appointed into the cabinet as an example right there's
going to be massive ripples on this and a lot of push back well the most
important one really is Robert F Kennedy because he does have Washington experience to the Max from the day he
was a little boy at his Uncle John's funeral John F Kennedy so he has that
Tulsi has that there are others that have it I'll tell you one thing that's interesting because um you know Mike Lee
gets interesting mixed reviews in many settings in in the Republican Party Mike
Lee was at the Forefront in in Arizona uh and he
was frankly the only one who stood up and and and tried to do something to help Carri Lake and you know car's
probably gonna just maybe fall just barely short but but you know I I
certain I'd like to have had her but I'm sure glad we're going to have more than a one or two person cushion in the
Senate because that makes all the difference for Supreme Court and nominees of cabinet people and
everything else it's going to be slam dunk in in almost all cases but I think
the good news is that Trump himself learned a lesson that he needs to
surround himself with different points of view that he can then consider he
he's a very decisive I think good leader in a lot of management types of things
but you know he's going to listen now more to sari Sarah huckleby who you know
was Sarah Sanders who was his press person before he's gonna listen to Mike Lee Mike Lee has kind of been on the
outs with the Rhinos of of the Senate well guess what he's probably you know
in the top two or three of all Senators now advising uh president Trump because
he went to the mat in the 2020 he went to the mat again here he stood up and
and and you know very likely could be uh a candidate for the Supreme Court which would be very interesting or attorney
general or attorney general uh and you know but then again it comes down to who
would or you know and then maybe there' be an interesting appointe from from you but so we have as a church as a church
with Mike Lee and with others involved um there's some good people and I know
some that have already been talked to about cabinet positions under secretaries that kind of stuff and uh
we're gonna have a real influence from the west and from I believe Latter Day
Saints I think Mike kpo from Idaho is highly highly thought of by Trump and
his people and so we're really positioned much better than we were with
our our former senior senator from Utah and also Senator Curtis from Utah is a
is a pretty solid guy from what I've heard I don't know him I've met him but I don't I know nothing about him at all
he's a he's a he's you know he's a pretty conservative uh faithful Family
Values core value type of person that I think will represent us much better than
than United Nations globalists and and Ukrainian interest and all that kind of stuff so I think we're going to see some
interesting things we'll probably see some you know we've seen a little bit of RI rioting you know everyone's looking
for a good chance to loot nowadays but I think what'll be interesting I was
predicting a big spike upward in gas prices uh if the opposition retain
control because they've almost depleted our entire reserves they forced the price down as much as they could
artificially but now with the Technologies and the things opening up the spigot again at least by February
we're going to see we're going to see a better economy we're going to see less inflation uh you know the FED reduced
their interest rates by half a point but I think they'll they'll get there but
they I think we could prepare ourselves that there will be the part of the backlash might be an economic major
setback and so I would say just because they'll want to make Trump look bad and
kind of take away the bully pulpit so I can see a conspiratorial effort to try to Tamp
down and have some bad economic things go on even though the stock market's gone crazy but stock market's outr us I
mean there's no there's no justification for that other than we have a $ 35 trillion dollar debt we keep printing
money and they keep putting it in the stock market so the the reality is I think we're going to see some serious
adjustments so I think the same would be wise to have their food storage and be
you know watch their debt and refinance if they get the chance and do the things that are prudent because I think they're
gonna they're G to make it difficult and if the the interesting part is if
depending on who gets appointed as Secretary of State and as the speaker of the house now the bullpen if they do I
mean I don't know that they would they would all they would love the enemy the adversary I think would love to take
Trump out out but hey let me tell you JD Vance seems to be the real deal and uh
and he actually um I think's cut out of the same bould the cloth you never know
we thought John Roberts was a conservative Justice and he turned out not to be as conservative but you never
know but JD Vance I I believe and then you look down to Mike Johnson and you
look at whoever they make I mean I think there's some talk that Rubio might be Secretary of State or whatever there's
you know we've got a pretty good bullpen of conservatives that even if they uh
heaven forbid are successful in in uh stopping the Trump train uh now the
Train's on the track with a lot of extra people and conductors to perhaps keep things going so what do you make of the
following there are uh I don't know if you've seen the chart but there's a chart that talk shows in almost every
demographic and geographic area the country moved to the right there there
are two there are two exceptions geographically one is Washington DC one even higher
blue and Utah every other state you know DC is
not a state but every other voting dist you know State moved to the right what
do you make of that I think it's the impact of um um Senator Romney I think it's um I
think it's part of the because because I'll be cidate to everyone I
find 25% of the things that the president say very very challenging I do
personally um I just don't understand it now I you know I don't claim to be some
major Insider like Jack Anderson you know the old days but I the last five years I've been hanging out with some
interesting cats and interesting people and one of them was some someone who has been one of the advisers to uh Donald
Trump over years ago back in the beginning back in 214 15 16 and one of
her comments was um the reason he is the way he is is that as soon as he was old
enough he was sent away to boarding school he was separated from his family so he was a rich kid at a boarding
school and had to fight for everything he got and as soon as he'd come home for the summer or he came home a little
older his father would send him down to the construction yard and throw him to the wall and say don't treat him any different
you know teach him the ropes and interesting enough I just heard yesterday that Don Jr and Eric Trump
that Donald Trump used to drive them down to the job sites and say to the
foreman give them the hardest jobs you can and and and don't call me if they're
crying or whatever he he wanted to teach his sons and that the comment from the
person I was talking to is very knowledgeable he said they knew how to run every piece of equipment they knew
how to run the jobs he says because he made them do that even though they were going from private school millionaire
status chauffeur driven cars then they'd throw them into the Wolves into the jungle of building those buildings and
being a part of those project well he went from that to that to being in New York having to deal with the unions to
deal with the you know the corruption and everything else he's actually according to all of my sources
about as nice a guy as you could meet but he has this image and he has this defense
mechanism that he has to do that to kind of protect the fact that he's kind of a softy deep down but I just I just cringe
every time I hear him attacking attacking anyone anyone even the Dead
the living the females the whatever I but you know what it's I I guess it's
probably and this is a bad example but maybe but it's kind of like how Brigham Young is viewed um in a lot he might be
very similar in some ways I mean I hate to say that as a comparison look like you're a little hesitant also find that
yeah Lion of the lord well okay um you know there was certainly plenty of controversy there so but but again there
were others perhaps through history I I'm sure that Captain Moroni wasn't a
softy he wasn't a woke guy well here's the thing you you you don't know even
you know Teddy Roosevelt was an unbelievably uh uh I mean this is a man
right this this guy unbelievable right and then but what you don't know about those things until years later when you
read a biography right because you don't have the social media you don't have the television you don't have all this open
we don't know how many of those men who had rise risen to the top
to the top because they had some of that edge to them and but but we you you
don't never hear about it you don't know about it enough right only the people around him are ever G to know well think
of it and for example like General Patton we hear about Patton just like
you would hear about Rush Limba I mean when you're outrageous or when you're tougher than normal or whatever then
people are going to remember you more than you know General milk toast or general nice guy or whatever you know
it's the old thing and you think of Bobby Knight in sports you think of the the exception in sports was level
Edwards you know lvll Edwards but but LVL was firm with his expectation but he
was just a great human being uh I I guess I've got to be careful attacking
dead people but Rick Majerus was uh horrific with people with his kids that
he was in trusting he got great results out of them but I know that there are
many lives that he impacted not to the positive s he impacted because he
demanded so much that they became better it's sort of like having a drill sergeant that almost kills you to help
you make make you stronger well we kind of would like to have sort of the in between of that I mean we all want kids
to have a soccer coach or a basketball coach that's tough disciplined and that
they win but still they like him instead of hate his guts and and want to spit on him when they never see him again well
the question is you know I've got I had a tough father right I mean but but he was unbelievably loving unbelievably
generous and affectionate to everybody around him and and and everything but he
I mean he was one of his biggest identities was when he was a marine right I mean he held on to that the whole time and uh you know even at his
funeral you know he had the the Marine you know he wanted to make sure the Marines came and did the salute and everything else and uh but uh in the end
he has a softy I mean I I haven't seen a grown man cry more than him but he's the
toughest guy I know right but he was also in the end he he was all he always
cared about the well-being of the of another person right that was really important to him he might be abrasive
and he was but but in the end if you were around him long enough you knew
that he cared but part of the part of the Marine training was that you'll die
for the guy next to you so part of that toughness was also a bond of love that
that is really more about loyalty and devotion than it is about just Aeros
love la la la la love you know kind of on when you talk about the teddy bear Jesus or or whatever I mean you you
think about uh our greatest our greatest Exemplar in the world and then compare
the things that Jehovah which was him before came to this earth what things he
had to do the things he had to destroy that that the demands that he made
through at least they translated correctly uh tenants of the Old Testament there were some pretty tough
rules in that uh school school master and uh and so you know I I think one of
the things that we all need to do the thing that I found ironic is that back
to the Utah vote I think there were so many people who found Donald Trump
reputation or his past history or his language so offensive they would they
would vote on the other side which has more things than I should mention or else I'll sound too critical I mean it's
so absurd uh the whole aspect that there was even a choice in my opinion but it
was because more I would say I would say 15% of the votes on the other side were
more against they were at least 15 or 20 was against him not for the other
candidate I think if if there would have been a different candidate or whatever but uh the reason Trump trump evokes
loyalty similar to George Washington jono um you know um kuster's Last Stand
The Alamo I mean you know I can still see as a kid that movie in the Alamo on Walt Disney where Jim buy sitting there
and they're and Dave Crockett they're shooting that and they know they're going to die but they're go down firing
well you know we actually have an interesting situation with that with Donald Trump flaws and all and I believe
me I I cringe but I pray I pray and I'm
grateful that he's willing to take this is this is a swamp full of alligators crocodiles rattlesnakes cobras you name
it who would you rather have a milk toast or somebody who somebody who goes
with the Wind of a pole or somebody whose core values is to at least try to help save and reform America yeah it's
interesting uh I don't know if you know do you know who McKay cins is I heard the name I don't okay mck Cobin is a
writer uh he's written I know he's I'm trying to think of where he's been I think New York Times and and then I think at the Atlantic is a a magazine
and and he's LDS and he wrote an article just yesterday I think it was a day or two after the election that talked about
how our standard is move now from the rhetoric of Donald Trump you know now
it's like everything is okay that is said and I and I I had a little online conversation with him and and it said
you know coming out with this article just a day or two after as if this is one of
the major issues is his mouth it is bizarre to me right I mean look at
what's at stake here whether you're on one side of it or the other and you're worried about what he's saying and and I
brought up the uh the saying you know when we were kids it's just you know sticks and stones may break my bones but
names will never hurt me I want to know what's gonna hurt me I I'm not going to worry about the names I don't worry
about that what I worry about is what are your policies that's number one what are the policies and do you have the
capacity to do it right those are the two things because there's a lot of people and you know we know all the
politicians that'll lie and lie and lie and they'll put out their policies and they never get anything done right so
it's those two things I think that you have to have and that's what I came back to him with what why does this why do
you care so much about this I mean I understand you're on the other side of the spectrum here M and and you you
you're you're against his policies that's okay that's what your decision is but it's his
policies why do you care about his mouth so much I I actually think that a lot of
people even who identify as regular people not charismatic Evangelical Born
Again ones are are basically um they they don't want to
make any waves they don't want to you know I I have a thing that says you know
if you don't if you don't act you have acted if you don't stand up for
something you don't stand for anything I mean the reality is since when was doing
the right thing not controversial since when was standing up for Liberty not I
mean the most unpopular Apostle in my lifetime was Ezra Benson he was derided
he was ridiculed he wasn't even accepted by the other members of the Quorum at various times his number one Advocate
was David oay his number one Advocate was David oay not my favorite Prophet but when he was ordained an
apostle under the hands of the president I think it was I want to say it was Hebrew J Grant he said your role as an
apostle is to uphold the Constitution of the United States that is your
responsibility and he did that with half of them being moderate Democrats in the
Quorum the presidency I mean we had all kinds of President Brown president Tanner president Moy I mean all kinds of
different political Persuasions David oay was a pretty stalard Republican who
actually I mean couldn't we all wish that we had that Donald Trump was like David O McKay I mean David David O McKay
got along with all the dissident Mormon Scholars he got along with the the the
athletes he got along with the famous people he got along with the poor people I had the honor as a seven-year-old to
sit by him at a softball game uh all Church Softball game was he wearing his
white suit he was wearing he W he he wasn't wearing because it was a softball game he was but he was in he always used
to wear like beige pants or white pant I mean he was he was always uh he was
Colonel Sanders on Parade I mean he was unbelievable and and it was so interesting that he had a he had a
twinkle in his eye and and yet we were sitting there and he was we were sitting behind the the back stop there the
strangest thing and and he he was calling balls and Strikes and he'd turn over to me I mean I was seven years old
and he said Johnny uh I think he missed that one there I think that should have
been a ball I mean it was it was and I was like my gosh and then as I've read
about him through the years uh I thought well that would be great but but we're talking about Donald Trump and and
president McKay had to deal with the worst crisis in in 50 years in the church ever since Lorenzo Snow in 75
years actually and he brought in an Elden Tanner who helped kind of bail us out from some serious real estate issues
that were going on but you know the reality is um we need to pray for our
leaders we need to pray that this imperfect person will listen and get
input not input that all of a sudden he's going to become a aan of of pro-choice versus pro-life because there
are people that he's surrounding himself that probably don't have the same core religious belief that we have on that
subject but that he will listen and look for the innate good and you know people say well but he's going to destroy the
econ destroy the environment I happen to know there's a technology out there that might be able to replace fracking um
that could come forward in the next couple of years well again I like being able to drive my car
I like not having to stop and charge up every time and the reality is there's so
many far uh things that are just not true about the green agenda and
everything else there a total woke identity agenda I mean seriously everyone should be riding a non-powered
bicycle if they really believe in the green green New Deal or whatever so the
the reality is we should be responsible I'm hoping that we see less government
I'm hoping that we see more emphasis on churches taking care of the poor the charit families families being
responsible for families Empowering Families lower taxes flat taxes of sales
tax on Goods or whatever to be able to raise whatever Revenue but why send
trillions overseas when our roads our bridges our infrastructure our veterans
our people need help why aren't we building communities to put these
homeless people give them meaningful work give you know let them take care of of organic Gardens do some light
fulfillment manufacturing whatever I mean why are we doing stuff like that instead we're sending money and people
are I mean why is half of Congress zillionaires because we're money laundering all over the country all over
the world and it's easier to launder it out of the country and that's why the people in Virginia and Washington DC
Vote the way they vote because they are part of that um defense company cartel that is in the
war business and not in the peace Ukraine the Ukraine and all of it I mean
it's yeah it's it's unbelievable so I'm I'm encouraged and uh I think the fight has
just begun but at least now we're not subject to executive orders like were
put out four years ago that undid almost everything good that uh Trump had done
in the previous couple of years yeah I I say you know it's of course when
someone's going to be doing more along the lines of what I want done I I say this but I I I would like to see a lot
of things reversed I would like to see a lot of executive I think that he will have I don't know a plethora of
executive orders going out day one he has to he has to but but I would also want to have a
reduction in the power of the president because we can't keep swaying back and
forth like this you you look in and Mike Lee actually brought this up a while ago
just earlier this year he said look the the powers of the president are so great so enormous and have such precedence now
yeah that between the executive orders and and the arm of the doj all of the executive orders act like
law and so if they you can't get anything through the Congress and you don't think because it's not the will of the people exactly all you have to do is
come up with an executive order and have the doj back it up or the SEC or some other board that comes in and look
you've got Title 9 Title 9 is is full it acts like law everybody has to follow it
there are fines yeah if you don't if you don't follow it you know it's yeah well
Mike Le Mike Le is right uh the powers of the presidency through the executive orders has got out of control the last
last 12 years uh totally out of control and uh and the Senate's lost their teeth the problem is the Senate's corrupt
and the house is corrupt when you have people who came in they're making 250,000 a year and their net worth goes
from uh 800,000 to 15 million in four years something doesn't smell right it's
not like they're building an Amway business on the side there's something going on and when you have people insert
Sider trading I mean I know people who made a mistake in the Securities
business that ended up being convicted of crimes and going away and yet we have we have probably I would say a thousand
Securities laws every day broken by members of Congress and broken by people it's a club it's unb it's a club of
elitists and it's it's got to change and to me honestly John the biggest issue on the board and and I know Trump ran with
this in 2016 I don't know if he did this time but the biggest issue to me is is term limits you've got career
politicians and I know there's some good politicians and you want them in their long term but the but the benefits aren't good enough no keep these people
in there these they're it's there's no reason for this you want people that go
and represent your people right not themselves not their careers yeah and
the staffs are way too big and way too powerful and what I was going to say is
it's not the will of the people that Congress does it's the will of the lobbyists that they bribe them to do and
that's the problem there needs to be a couple of good things one let's get pharmaceutical ads off of
television I was just thinking about that yesterday only country besides New Zealand that allows that let's get them
off of Television because that's a fraud let's also uh you know make let's get
rid of The Regulators that are a revolving door between the Pharmaceuticals and the FDA and the FTC
and everything else it's a revolving door it's an insiders Club the the patents are totally corrupt and out of
whack uh there's so much corruption it's it's almost overwhelming but the good
news is that Trump in spite of his many weaknesses is at least willing somewhat
to bring in other smart people without being threatened by them uh you know
Elon Musk and and Theus I mean these guys are really smart guys but Trump's a
really smart guy so hopefully hopefully knowing this is his last
harra he will allow them to give him good counsel and advice and help them
let turn loose 20 of them to help clean up all of these different messes that
are everywhere to put us on the right track but again pain is gain and uh
whenever you have like an illness things get worse before they get better and we've got to be prepared there's not
going to be roses this is a cesspool mess that is ABS we are absolutely
totally and completely bankrupt as a comp country and the world is bankrupt and we living on all this fake money all
these years so we really need to reestablish our manufacturing our our
natural resources our employment and we need to be fair in all things and we
need to reduce the tax burden which will allow people to invest and hire more people and have prosperity and lower
prices and and again we're it's been really quite an adventure and I'm I'm
actually frankly exhausted but I'm thrilled to death that we have uh a
chance to turn this page of the book I think it's going to be a fascinating couple of years a lot of news coming
through in the short term here so yeah all right John thanks so much appreciate it thanks for sharing your thoughts and
your experience here over the last couple of months and uh we'll we'll have you back shortly great and you know my
uh my sweet wife and I I just I will have to tell you it's funny is that um
when we went to the Trump event I had all of the staffs all of the people coming up and asking me for cardio
Miracle samples we we actually have an inside track to we by the way we did get
approved for hsas and fsas that's a big deal that means anyone who says oh it's
too expensive with our subscription and HSA it's almost half price for the best
product I believe in the world the other thing is We Believe now with this group in place that's coming that we're not
too far out from getting approval for VA and for Medicare and Medicaid hopefully
in the next year or two which which would really be big and that's why we beefed up our science to to match what's
necessary to get those approvals but um it's been it's it's really been an
interesting journey and uh I feel so blessed and thank all of those good
people with uh the quick media family and I've got to get my calendar so I can come on the cruise with you Greg I want
to do that so I appreciate I'm so proud of all you've done and the Clarion voice
of reason you know everyone doesn't agree with everyone on everything but thank heavens for people like yourself
that are standing up for the principles that I believe the Book of Mormon teach and that were espoused by the Prophet
Joseph and also by the Lord himself in the New Testament and the Book of Mormon so thank you for all you're doing and
your effort in trying to help bring truth that we all are independently responsible for our own progress we
can't just defer that to somebody else so thank you for what you're doing appreciate that John we will talk to you
again soon okay see you later
