Come Follow Me LDS- Mosiah 11-17 Pt 2, Book of Mormon (May 4-10)

'The REAL Reason Abinadi Was Killed'
- Abinadi was NOT killed because he wouldn't give 'Good Tidings'
- In fact, Abinadi did give 'Good Tidings'
- Abinadi was killed because he preached of the coming of the Messiah/King/Melchizedek and the Doctrine of Christ
- Jesus Christ is the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53
- Abinadi is a 'type' of the Suffering Servant



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in this episode we talk about the real

reason they killed Abinadi here we go

the issue here is the interpretation of

Isaiah 52 7 to 10 being about Jehovah

and the doctrine of Christ that is

coming down into the image of man being

born of Mary and lowering himself below

everybody that's what the problem is

that's what he's interpreting and in

Isaiah here that's why he's going right

to this right now

just like Limhi said he's not going to

something that says I'm bringing good

tidings to you even though you think

you're a good people that's not that's

not what's happening and it's just not

what's happening this is about by God

reigneth right in 52 7 to 10 this is

about Jehovah reigning as the king in

perhaps in the millennium in Zion and

this is talking about Noah here who is

the king and how he reigns compared to

how King Benjamin reigns and how it is

all under the name of Jesus Christ what

name are they under this is about the

prophecy of the coming of the Messiah

the savior of the world and so then

right from 52 7 to 10 right and in

isaiah Abinadi’s going to continue on

with the words in chapter 53 and this is

where we get the idea of the servant

right one of the servant songs this is

the suffering servant this is what is so

crucial in understanding remember with

King Benjamin he in a sense through his

service as a servant is a suffering

servant he's the servant this is an

important part of this whole ritualistic

concept of the suffering servant or of

just the servant of God remember again

when John the Baptist introduces Jesus

Christ he introduces him as the Lamb of

God in Aramaic the language of John the

Baptist likely and of Jesus Christ

the word talya in Aramaic is lamb and it

is also servant he could very well be

really introducing him there not just as

the lamb of god as we think of lamb but

as the servant of god in other words

tying him to the role that we find in

the four sermon songs of the messianic

prophet isaiah and just a little bit

from isaiah 53 that Obinna die goes

over here he says who hath believed our

report and to whom is the arm of the

Lord revealed for he shall grow up

before him as a tender plant and as a

root out of dry ground he is despised

and rejected of men a man of sorrows and

acquainted with grief and we hid as it

were our faces from him he was despised

and we esteemed him not

think about ritual here right if this is

something that started with Isaiah or

maybe existed before I think I would

guess existed before something like this

is ritualistic language and this is

something that could be created into a

drama and this is something that is

understood as part of the doctrine of

Christ and the perhaps was carried out

during the time of the Feast of

Tabernacles when the king would be

Re-coronated right or a new king

was coronated surely he has borne our

griefs and carried our sorrows yet we

did esteem him stricken smitten of God

and afflicted but he was wounded for our

transgressions he was bruised for our

iniquities the chastisement of our peace

was upon him and with His stripes we are

healed so in other words it talks about

him being whipped right which is exactly

what happens he's scourged by a whip and

he says talking about all of us who were

fallen every one of us all we like sheep

have gone astray

we have turned everyone to his own way

and the LORD hath laid on him the

iniquity of us all

it is the Redeemer this is Jesus Christ

this is a role that a king would play

perhaps in this ritual this is what King

Benjamin was playing it looks like to me

in his ceremony of coronation with

Mosiah at a Feast of Tabernacles event

and again this is what a Ben and I goes

directly to right I mean he's

taking Isaiah 52 7 to 10 and he's now

going beyond it into chapter 53 to

explain it to answer them and what does

it mean to him what does this mean he's

talking about the Redeemer he's talking

about Jesus Christ that's what it's


he was oppressed and he was afflicted

yet he opened not his mouth he is

brought as a lamb to the slaughter and

as a sheep before her shares his dumb so

he opened not his mouth he was taken

from prison and from judgment and who

shall declare his generation for he was

cut off out of the land of the living

for the transgression of my people was

he stricken and at the end here down in

verse 12 that we have in Messiah 14 he

hath poured out his soul unto death and

he was numbered with the transgressors

think of the two men that were next to

him when he was crucified or you know

what think of just him going through all

of the transgressions in Gethsemane and

he bore the sins of many and made

intercession for the transgressors right

this is Jesus Christ that's what it been

a die immediately goes to hey you guys

aren't teaching the law of Moses the way

it's supposed to be taught the law of

Moses doesn't save you right on its own

let me tell you what 52 7 to 10 is about

and he goes right into

chapter 53 of Isaiah with the suffering

servant okay then he continues here

expounding on the role of Christ and who

he is and trying to preach this doctrine

to these people who have completely

rejected Jesus Christ in the higher law

and remember again just real quick going

back to Mosiah 7 in Lim highs words the

son of King Noah he says this in verse

27 is he's talking about this prophet

who was slain and because he said unto

them that Christ was the god the father

of all things right so this is what

Bennett eyes about to go into this is

another problem for them in other words

that the Anointed One the one that was

going to be the savior is actually God

not a political Messiah not anybody else

so we get in a very interesting point

about doctrine here about how Christ is

both the father and the son this is a

very different doctrine from the Trinity

for example right

these are roles or you know how we talk

about how in temple drama right people

can fill different roles they are or

titles in a ceremony in a royal

procession and coronation there are

titles that are given well one of the

titles that is given to Jesus Christ and

to Jehovah even is the father and pay

very close attention here to the

language from Obinna die

this is chapter 15 verse 1 he says I

would that you should understand that

God Himself shall come down among the

children of men and shall redeem his

people he knows that's what they don't

believe this is what gets him killed

right here right we're told that in

chapter 7 in those ayah 7 it's this is

it he's saying that God is the Messiah

he's saying Jehovah

is Hamas yet Misha right God is Jehovah

is Christ Jehovah is the Messiah and

he's going to lower himself down to us

let me say it again I would that ye

should understand that God himself shall

come down among the children of men and

shall redeem his people look at the term

redeem what we've just gone over here

with the suffering servant in Chapter 14

of Messiah which is basically chapter 53

of Messiah of Isaiah right and like

it's a little confusing but he's putting

the priests question that they're trying

to snare him with of Isaiah 52 7 to 10

into context and this is what he's

saying he's goes right into the doctrine

of Christ right to the core he's saying

that the suffering servant in chapter 53

of Isaiah is God himself

it is Jehovah and because verse 2 and

because he dwelleth in the flesh he

shall be called the Son of God now

remember when we were going through the

New Testament I brought this up often

because this is what's it this is very

important to understand why is he called

the Son of God remember there are many

titles to a king he's a king he fills

many roles one of his titles Jehovah's

titles to them Jehovah is the son of God

what does that mean we usually refer to

this in a way that it means the son of

our Father in heaven

which is true that's doctrinally exact

and importance to understanding what

others consider to be the Trinity right

that these are two separate beings but

it's not what the title means the title

of the Son of God doesn't mean the son

of the Father

it means the son of his mother right

because it is or at least to be more

exact maybe it means both but to be more

exact it's he says it right here in

verse 2 and because he dwelleth in flesh

who gives him the flesh

he shall be called the Son of God and

having subjected the flesh to the will

of the Father

being the father and the son so he is

the son because he's born to Mary's born

to a woman that's what it means when we

talk about the son of God in the New

Testament John the Evangelist write for

the in the fourth gospel says that he

writes it after the other three Gospels

have been around for decades he says he

writes this because he wants everyone to

know that Jesus Christ is the son of God

specifically in other words that's the

doctrine that he condescends down to us

and is born and takes on our image of

what we are that's exactly what the

angel said to Nephi in his vision about

about his father Lehigh's dream as soon

as he asks what the tree is which to me

there's very little doubt that it is the

doctrine of Christ that's what the Tree

of Life represents and when asked about

the tree the angel starts talking about

the condescension of God do you know

what the condescension of God is and

then he takes Nephi and vision to

Nazareth to marry right because that's

the doctrine right and just like we get

from limb high in Chapter 7 of Mosiah

there are two things that are happening

here there is that God is going to lower

himself into our image that's how much

love he has and that is something that

King Noah and his priests do not accept

and then the second part of that is that

we are in the image of God so that we

can become like him

those two things are completely removed

here for King Noah and his priests if

you go back to two weeks ago and listen

to the second part of King Benjamin's

speech on the podcast that I did you'll

see where those two points might be even

a little further going through chapter 3

of Mosiah I think the title that I put

on the thumbnail is Mosiah Messiah and

if you go back and look at that in that

doctrine of Christ chapter of Mosiah 3

we go over those two things and then

later that's right that later we talked

about becoming and that is the second

half of that that portion of the

doctrine of Christ now today in most of

Christianity they do accept that God

lowered himself and was incarnated right

that's all there but the second half of

that is not that we are in the image of

God and that image of God doesn't just

mean for Latter day Saints we oftentimes

look at that like oh we we look like him

we're kind of like him that he is a we

would use it as a way of talking about

the nature of God that he has a physical

body but it's well beyond that what it

really means is that we have his nature

that's really what it means it means

that we are like him not just that he

has a physical body it means that we can

ascend and grow and progress to become

like him that is a an integral part of

the doctrine of Christ and he follows up

here he says the Father

so Jesus Christ is the father because he

was conceived by the power of God and

the son because of the flesh so he

becomes then the father in the Senate in

other words he fills those two roles and

they are one God the very eternal father

of heaven and of earth in other words

it's he's one being he is one being and

he is both our Father he'll go over that

in a minute how and he is the son of God

so he's the son of an eternal father and

he is our Father if we accept him and

then he clarifies the last chapter a

little bit more about the suffering

servant he says and thus the flesh

becoming subject to the spirit or the

son to the Father

being one God suffereth temptation and

yieldeth not to temptation you give that

a little bit in theology there did

Jesus Christ actually experienced

temptation absolutely he

experienced temptation otherwise his

agency really doesn't count and

otherwise the love he has for us and the

ability to overcome all of that doesn't

count but is he suffereth himself to be

mocked and scourged and cast out and

disowned by his people right he's

talking about the suffering servant he

says even as Isaiah said he shall be led

as a sheep before the share is dumb

so he opened not his mouth right this is

this is an expose on Isaiah on the

suffering servant that it is Jesus


I know one scholar in particular kind of

uses this like well they're using this

and using it as typology and making it

he's like likening the

scripture unto Jesus Christ I don't buy

that at all I don't buy that at all

of the prophets have prophesied about

Jesus Christ

including Isaiah that's what this is

about and he says behold I say unto you

that when his soul has been made and

offering for sin he shall see his seed

this is also as a ax and now what say ye

and who shall be his seed this was

misinterpreted by some LDS scholars

early on in the nineteenth century but

it says in verse 11 behold I say unto

you that whosoever has heard the words

of the prophets like Isaiah

yay all the holy prophets who have

prophesied concerning the coming of the

Lord I say unto you that all those who

have hearkened unto their words and

believed that the Lord would redeem his

people and have looked forward to that

day for a remission of their sins

I say into you that these are his seed

or they are the heirs of the kingdom of

God in other words that is how he is our

Father and I know I you know I sound a


passionate about this and I I've just

read too much I've read too much about

this being diluted

down into something that that removes

the doctrine of Christ in Old Testament

times it's not true this whole trial

here is about the doctrine of Christ

please at least take that into

consideration so now he's talked about

those that are his seed those that have

accepted Jesus Christ that's really what

that's about and then it follows up here

in verse 13 and he says yay and are not

the prophets everyone that has opened

his mouth to prophecy that has not

fallen into transgression I mean all the

holy prophets ever since the world began

I send to you that they are his seed all

right think of our fluid hierarchy that

we go over all the time right everybody

who was accepted Christ as his seed the

prophets right would be a little a

little above that right there a little

bit above that in their calling they are

his seed so he's explaining what Isaiah

52 7 to 10 is especially verse 7 here

because in 14 it said and enter and

again realize that talking about Isaiah

himself that's the person who accepted

Jesus Christ he's not writing Isaiah 52

and Isaiah 53 with a suffering servant

with just some King in mind like

Hezekiah that is not true makes though

logically when you understand temple

drama and ritual and you understand what

Abinadi is clarifying here

Isaiah clearly according to a Ben and I

is talking about Jesus Christ and the

doctrine of Christ and saying that

Isaiah 52 7 to 10 is about Jesus Christ

and that the suffering servant of

chapter 53 is Jesus Christ but then he

goes into chap into that first verse 7

of 52 7 to 10 and says about the

prophets or perhaps about all of those

that are the seed of Jesus cry

he says and these are they who have

published peace right who have brought

good tidings of good who have published

salvation and said unto Zion thy God

reigneth okay so we're getting the first

interpretation the first is the idea of

who are those that are publishing peace

he says this right after he talks about

the prophets it's hard for me to

understand if he's talking about just

the prophets or all of those people here

that have accepted Christ let's say for

right now because we're gonna go down a

little bit further here that it's just

the prophets right they're one example

of those that are publishing peace this

whole idea of Jesus Christ as the

father and we are his seed is is all

being put together here for this whole

interpretation that he's giving of

Isaiah right that's how he's getting to


that's why Limhi talks about it

because Jesus Christ or the Messiah as

the father as God right is how he's

coming into Isaiah 52 7 to 10 at least

in this chapter Messiah 15 and by the

way Benjamin goes into this also

King Benjamin looking back at his in

chapter 3 and he continues so these are

they that bring good tidings remember

that good tidings or the good news is

mah Basar or mah Basar right which is

which is which is Jesus Christ it's that

the good news is what is then taken

in Old English and given the words

God spell or good spell or good news

that's what the gospel is so when they

talk about good tidings here they repeat

it twice they are talking about the good

news that Jesus Christ is coming down to

the earth and taking on our sins that's

what good tidings means

that is the Hebrew word for gospel is

Bashar or Bashar my Hebrew isn't good

enough to know I said I see them in two

different variations at least but that's

the underlying Hebrew that you find in

in Isaiah 52 7 and how beautiful upon

the mountains were their feet remember

we talked about this just a bit ago

about how this would look and comparing

this to Mount Sinai and to the Holy of

Holies with the throne and the footstool

of the Ark of the Covenant it's about a

king right it's about it's about

Melchizedek the Melchizedek King the

king of righteousness and again how

beautiful upon the mountains are the

feet of those that are still publishing

peace and again how beautiful upon the

mountains are the feet of those who

shall hereafter publish peace from this

time henceforth and forever and then he

says and relates this back to Jesus

Christ himself as the one who publishes

peace which would show him as being kind

of the Melchizedek so so far we can kind

of you look at this that those that

publish piece as a Melchizedek role

right that's that the prophets would

have the Melchizedek Priesthood and the

King is the king of righteousness

perhaps also with the Melchizedek

Priesthood including the Davidic Kings

so he says look this is not all oh how

beautiful upon the mountains are the

feet of him that bringeth good tidings

who bringeth the gospel the good news

Jesus Christ that is the founder of

peace so Jehovah himself

yay even the Lord who has redeemed his

people yay him who has granted salvation

unto his people so it seems we can look

at this in a duality that the people of

the Dead Sea Scrolls the Essenes right

the people of Qumran that is they look

forward to their new Melchizedek and the

interpreted Isaiah 52 7 to 10 with

Melchizedek in mind that they're looking

for the Messiah the new Melchizedek

that's going to come but that is also a

title in a row

that is being filled that perhaps we

could say is filled also by the prophets

and perhaps by all those that accept

Christ and maybe it means those that go

through the temple I don't know right

but there's something there about a

level of those that accept Christ the

prophets and in Jesus Christ himself in

a Melchizedek role right the one that

reigns in Zion in verse 19 he follows up

and says for were it not for the

redemption which he hath made for his

people again he's I've been a nice

talking to people that don't believe in

Jesus Christ right he's interpreting

Isaiah for them for were it not for the

redemption which he hath made for his

people which was prepared from the

foundation of the world I say unto you

were it not for this all mankind must

have perished in other words your law of

Moses is great even though you don't

follow it but it is not what saves

people everyone will perish just with

the law of Moses can't have it alone so

here a Bennett I is giving a direct

answer to the interpretation of 52 7 to

10 that's what he's doing

that's the question at hand and

if you've looked around at other sources

you're going to hear a different answer

because it's just something that has

been repeated quite frankly because I've

researched this since the end of the

19th century the end of the 19th century

so with what one man interpreted

everybody else has kind of built off of

that in this traditional interpretation

of what Isaiah 52 7 to 10 means and why

Abinadi is on trial and why they

kill them I've given you the evidence

direct from Limhi’s mouth why they

kill him and if you understand that what

a Bennett eye is doing here is preaching

about Jesus Christ through his

interpretation of what Isaiah means then

there is little doubt that you can

believe that he was killed for any other

reason and he goes on with his doctrine

of Christ but behold the bands of death

shall be broken and the Sun reigneth

right so the Sun reigneth remember that

in 52 seven to ten at the at the end of

verse seven it says those that publish

with salvation it says about the feet

upon the mountain of those that are he

who bringeth good tidings of him that

bringeth good tidings and that saith

unto Zion thy God reigneth right so we

get a tie into that phrase here in verse

20 of Mosiah 15 but behold the bands of

death shall be broken and the Sun

reigneth in other words that's who this

is about the one who descended to below

every one the one who came down the god

that came down to earth into the image

of man and therefore and this is an

understanding a a doctrine before the

time of Jesus Christ right he says and

he that hath power over the dead

therefore he bringeth to pass the

resurrection of the Dead so this is all

something that is understood you would

imagine also by Isaiah and all of the

prophets previously even goes into a

first resurrection here and talking also

about those that are called in that

first resurrection those that are the

seed of Jesus Christ and here he uses

the word by the way just as others have

here in the Book of Mormon he uses the

word Christ he's making it as Nephi

would say very plain very plain then he

says in 22 and now the resurrection of

all the prophets and all those who

believed in their words or all those

that have kept the commandments of God

shall come forth in the first

resurrection therefore they are the

first resurrection right so we give this

idea again here of roles and two-fluid

hierarchy right where we have all the

people are the seed that that accept

Christ and the prophets are his seed and

then of course you have Jesus Christ

himself right all three of those levels

are those who are have published piece

and that continue to publish piece

and whose feet are on the mountain and

again in those terms we think of a milk

acidic role even for individuals not

just for the profits and then he goes on

and expounds on all of this as he's gone

through the interpretation of Isaiah and

the doctrine of Christ saying that

justice cannot be denied

right justice has to be there that's why

there has to be a redeemer and at the

time shall come that the salvation of

the Lord shall be declared to every

nation kindred tongue and people

remember with the Gentiles this is a

Melchizedek Priesthood a higher law

reference and in preaching to all of the

Gentiles and to everybody of every

nation he goes back into 52 seven to ten

and says hey Lord thy Watchmen shall

lift up their voice with the voice

together they shall sing for they shall

see eye to eye think of Jeremiah's New

Covenant when the Lord shall bring again

Zion he's interweaving all this together

here and then he finishes off with ten

and nine and ten break forth into joy

sing together he wastes places of

Jerusalem for the LORD hath comforted

his people he hath redeemed Jerusalem

it's like a chiasmus he's capping it

off here on the back end the Lord hath

made bear his holy arm in the eyes of

all the nations and all the ends of the

earth shall see the salvation of our God

because it's going to be preached to

everyone from all those that are the

seed of Jesus Christ and from the

prophets so we see here this beautiful

weaving in response to the gotcha

question from the priests a Bennett I

knows this is going to get him into

trouble but he goes and he preaches the

doctrine of Christ to them anyway in

response to the question of what does

Isaiah 52 7 to 10 mean it is Jesus


it is the melodic role it is the royal

priesthood it is the higher law it is

God Himself who will

lower himself to us which in turn allows

us to ascend to him and then he starts

talking about Christ and Christ in

Christ in Christ and just expounds more

and more on this doctrine of Christ in

chapter 16 and it was if there was no

redemption made us as an enemy of God we

would have no chance we would all perish

and now if Christ had not come into the

world speaking of things to come as

though they had already come there could

have been no redemption Mosiah 16:6

so he's talking as if Christ has already

come even though he hasn't remember

according to the chapter summary here

were at about 148 BC and verse 7 and if

Christ had not risen from the dead or

have broken the bands of death that the

grave should have no victory and that

death should have no sting there could

have been no resurrection what is this

all about

pretty clear death is swallowed up in

Christ he is the light and the life of

the world could very easily be a

reference to the menorah in fact it says

here which is very interesting you know

the menorah in the second temple we know

specifically maybe in the first temple -

but the menorah in the second temple is

you know you could never let the light

go out that's what Hanukkah is all about

right it miraculously stays lit while

they're at war for eight days it says

here in verse nine he is the light and

the life of the world a light that is

endless and that can never be darkened

right the menorah can never go out yeah

and also a life which is endless that

there can be no more death and he says

look you need to repent right watching

not to tremble and repent of your sins

and remember that only in and through

Christ can he be saved this whole idea

of just law of Moses is malarkey right

therefore if he teach the law of Moses

also teach that it is a shadow of things

which are to come teach them that

redemption come

through Christ the Lord who is the very

eternal father

that's what limp I said and the

understanding I think they're to King

Noah and his priests is that he is God

right the god of the Old Testament

Jehovah that's their problem

so after he's finished all of this right

and again what is this all about

again you don't see things here about

national about nationalism that's

something that you read a lot in the

LDS scholarship that somehow this is

about a nationalistic fervor with King

Noah and his priests and that they feel

that they're the covenant people again

I'm not saying that doesn't exist that's

a very easy thing to have and to fall

back on when you get rid of a higher law

but that's not the point here right

that's not at all what a Bennett I is

preaching about the question is about

Isaiah 52 seven to ten the entire

response here is about Jesus Christ

so they take him to kill him but there's

one among them who is Alma right one of

the priests he bolts he gets out because

he believes what Abinadi is said

and so they put him into prison a

Bennett I and again we get we get that

he was in prison for three days or some

I don't know if this is imagery from

Mormon or imagery from Alma but he's in

for three days just like three just like

Jonah right or just like Christ when

he is taken from the cross and then

resurrection on the third day but

there's some similar imagery going on

here they understand all that is going

to happen with Jesus Christ this is very

easily could be a prophetic

allusion to the Savior and it says here

remember that the Savior was also on

trial and it was about blasphemy and

then King Noah says Obinna die we have

found an accusation against thee and

thou art worthy of death they're putting

him to death because he preached the

God was going to be born to a woman that

he had so much love for us that he would

lower himself below us and that we would

have an opportunity to become like him

and he says it right here in verse eight

for thou hast said that God himself

should come down among the children of

men and now for this cause thou shalt be

put to death unless thou wilt recall all

the words which thou has spoken evil

concerning me and my people why that's

why they're killing him they say it over

and over again this is this is all I

again the reason I'm passionate about

this I've just read too many times

people going in and saying that this is

a different reason we can't lose sight

of the doctrine of Christ we just can't

this is the core of what Mormon is

writing about outside of the visit of

Christ himself so a minute I says I'm

not gonna recall anything until they

take him and they scourge his skin right

they scourge his skin so who else is

scourge Christ is scourge with a whip

right he is scourged as says here with

faggots or twigs

yeah even unto death so there's a

question as to how he actually died and

we there's the idea that he was you know

killed on you know put to death by fire

on a stake which is very possible that

still could be what that means right the

bottom of what's below him could be a

bunch of twigs a bunch of branches that

they light on fire and that scourges him

so the branches scourge him right but

others have a more literal translation

of that where they have taken the branch

and they use those and they're on fire

already and they and they beat him they

scourge him with it and just as you

would with a whip so to speak and they

beat him which is also possible but I

don't think that's the only

interpretation and he says as this is

happening to him that whatever is

happening to him will also

happen to them that is he suffers the

pains of death by fire because he

believes in the salvation of the Lord

their God he believes in the doctrine of

Christ in the Messiah being God and that

in that day they're going to be hunted

and taken by the hand of their enemies

and they shall suffer as I suffer the

pains of death by fire and he ends then

in verse 20 there's this great sermon in

answering and interpreting Isaiah and

clarifying Isaiah that's what the Book

of Mormon does for us it clarifies the

Bible not the other way around

right although at times it can the Bible

can clarify the Book of Mormon for us

but the Book of Mormon is the authority

and its purpose is to help clarify the

stick of Judah and so a Bennett I having

given this great sermon interpreting

Isaiah especially 50 to 7 to 10 but

going into 53 also the suffering servant

saying this is Jesus Christ and that's

how I interpret it and it's more than

likely that the priest who brought this

up knew that that's how he was going to

interpret it they preferred to interpret

it a different way and they used this to

make an accusation of blasphemy that God

himself would lower himself to us and

think about that as the crux of the

gospel of the crux of the doctrine of

Christ without that we don't have a God

that could love it as much as he does

there's no other way for that to happen

and that it is only through that

condescension of God and through his

sacrifice in Gethsemane and on the cross

that we can have salvation that the

lower law by itself our works our

obedience our prayers our are vital but

they alone can't do it it's not our

merit that gets us all the way there

I'll talk to you next time


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