'The Fourth Interpreter'
- The Laws of this World fight against the Doctrine of Christ
- The title, Son of God is not always the same as 'The Messiah'
- Scriptural examples of The Nehor Principle
The 4 Interpreters
LDS Mormon Son of God Messiah Korihor Sherem Isaiah Nehushtan
so this is a cursory explanation of the
Nehor principle here we go all right
so the knee whore principle is the
fourth interpreter of the for
interpreters I use when looking at the
scriptures and gospel principles it is
not something that is a positive
principle it is a principle of context
it is a principle of adversity and
something that we need to be aware of
when we go through the scriptures there
seems to be a natural lower law force
psychological sociological that
spiritual that pushes away from the idea
of the Son of God coming down to earth
and taking upon him the sins of the
world there are various reasons for this
I believe that we'll discuss more toward
the end of this episode but for various
reasons this is something that is pushed
against individually each one of us push
against it and have to be aware of it so
that we catch ourselves that's why this
is one of the interpreters and secondly
as societies grow they push against this
idea so even when the idea the doctrine
of Christ that we learn especially about
in the Book of Mormon is presented and a
new dispensation whether it's from the
time of Adam to Abraham to Moses at the
time of Lehi and coming down to the time
of Christ and then of course even in our
day there is a strong push back an
adversarial push back
on this idea of proxy on the idea that
the Son of God would actually lower
himself and come into mortality being
born of a woman and taking on the sins
of the world it is an offense to the
lower law it is an offence to a mortal
law and we can find this principle all
throughout the scriptures and it's what
changes these theocratic societies that
we read about in each book of the
scriptures as they lose the idea of the
Son of God because it's not just the
doctrine of Christ we need to parse that
out a little bit the doctrine of Christ
includes the idea that he will be born
of a woman and come down take on a
mortal body and take on the sins of the
world that is something more specific
under the umbrella of the doctrine of
Christ and it's a very important part of
the Nehor principle it is what the
Nehor principle is there are various
corruptions of the doctrine of Christ
and over all that's what I am putting in
under this umbrella of the Nehor
principle but specifically or not to get
too specific but specifically the idea
of the sacrifice of God of the Son of
God is what the Nehor principle is
about and it is what much of Scripture
is a reaction to it it's written about
it's a reaction of the prophets to this
loss of the doctrine of the Son of God
that they are out expounding this
doctrine trying to hit it hard with the
people so that we understand that this
is what the center of the gospel is
about so let's go through some examples
here passing through the scriptures to
see how this principle works and how the
prophets react to it first of all let's
take a look at
Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden right
here from the get-go as Adam and Eve are
driven out into the lone entry world and
they are praying to God they get a
response right and the response is not
from God it is from Satan and the
question from Adam is who are you and
his answer is I'm the god of this world
and that is the precedent that we have
as new dispensations are rolled out and
all of these truths in the fullness of
the gospel and the fullness of the
Melchizedek Priesthood and its
ordinances are rolled out the god of
this world does everything to a SERP our
God and the focus of that is the son of
God is Jesus Christ and in one way or
another either completely eliminating
that idea or tweaking it corrupting it
so that we don't have the same
understanding and relationship with the
Savior and with our Father and so that
we learn to move a little bit more
toward the god of this world that's the
idea and it's very very effective and we
know right from the get-go that Adams
children and grandchildren start to fall
away and a big part of that I believe is
this this tweaking of the doctrine of
Christ or the doctrine of the son of God
there are few anchor points that we can
look at with this and again this
principle helps us to understand what
the prophets are doing and why their
exhortation of Christ is so strong
the first thing I think we need to do is
give a background of Nehor and I'm
going to mix in here a couple of other
what they call anti Christ's which are
really just those that are against
Christ those are that are against the
doctrine of Christ there's three of
these guys that are found in the Book of
Mormon and I want to go over a couple of
the others here and then we're gonna hit
me or
first is Sherem we find this in Jacob
seven Sherem and these other antichrists
are highlighted for a very specific
purpose remember that this is the Book
of Mormon another testament of Jesus
Christ and so this is what we need to
watch out for here in Chapter 7 the last
chapter of Jacob it says and now it came
to pass after some years had passed away
there came a man among the people of
Nephi whose name was Sharon who knows
knows where he came from another people
probably maybe somebody who had a
background from Jerusalem and it came to
pass that he began to preach among the
people and to declare unto them that
there should be no Christ and he
preached many things which were
flattering unto the people and this he
did that he might overthrow the doctrine
of Christ so this is the first guy that
comes around in the Book of Mormon that
specifically says I don't think he's the
first but he's the first one where we
specifically see the authors writing
about someone who's trying to overthrow
the doctrine of Christ so he's not
trying to overthrow a religion he's not
an atheist
he just wants to overthrow the doctrine
of Christ that's the knee core principle
and he was learned that he had a perfect
knowledge of the language of the people
wherefore he could use much flattery and
much power of speech according to the
power of the devil
so he's very persuasive he's articulate
rhetoric he knows how to talk and
communicate his message and he's using
this as an art language is a tool and
there are a lot of people out there that
know this very well that their language
can be used words can be used phrases
can be used to form a narrative and
that's what Sharon is doing and Sharon
says to Jacob he says I have sought much
opportunity that I might speak unto you
for I have heard and also know that thou
goest about much preaching that which he
called the gospel or the doctrine of
Christ
that is his target it's going right to
the heart of things why well because he
wants to bring the higher law he wants
to get rid of the higher law and he
wants to come down just to the law of
Moses this is what he says and you have
let away much of this people he's
talking about Jacob that they pervert
the right way of God and keep not the
law of Moses which is the right way so
here we have that higher and lower law
and they go that higher lower law which
is another interpreter that I use one of
the four goes hand-in-hand with this
knee whore principle he wants to get rid
of the higher law the higher law is the
law of Christ and he wants to focus just
on the law of Moses very similar to what
Lehi Jacob's father and Nephi and laman
and lemuel in their environment that
they had at Jerusalem when they left and
convert the law of Moses he's saying he
wants to convert the law of Moses into
the worship of a being would ye shut you
say shall come many hundred years hence
very interesting so he's saying look the
law is the law and that's all there is
there is only the lower law and you want
to convert it into something where
there's another being that is involved
with this law in other words Jacob's
preaching about the higher lies
preaching about Christ who is going to
come and be born of a woman and take on
the sins of the world and that the
entire law of Moses is looking forward
to this that's what the sacrifices are
for that's what the remembrance is for
and of course we know that that's true
we know that that's what the law of
Moses is supposed to do but as happens
in many dispensations and areas of I
mean geographic areas of the gospel
people of the Lord they lose sight of
Christ and they fall back to the to the
lower law and that's what Sharon is
trying to bring about here he's trying
to preach against Christ and focus just
on the lower law and this is what he
says and this is important we're gonna
come back to this when we get back to
the beginning of the Book of Mormon he
says I declare unto you that this is
blasphemy for no man knoweth of such
things for he cannot tell of things to
come so the higher law includes the
spirit of prophecy the higher law is the
ability to see forward it would be what
prophets have it's revelation for all of
us it's inspiration it's going beyond
the scripture a closed canon it's the
ability for us to relate and to
communicate directly with God that's
part of the higher law but he says it's
blasphemy and that's an important thing
to understand here with it what I try to
get across with a knee whore principle
this is not I could have called it the
core whore principle you know I get oh
and get to him in a minute but core
whore is an atheist that's not what this
is about this is about corrupting
religion this is about corrupting
ultimately overall it's about corrupting
the gospel and true Christianity that's
what Nehor ends up doing
that's what Sherem is trying to do is to
fall back to where Lehi Lehigh's people
were when he was in Jerusalem and Jacob
says deny though the Christ who shall
come and he said if there should be a
Christ I would not deny him but I know
that there is no Christ neither has been
nor ever will be and I said unto Him
believe it style the Scriptures and he
said yay and I said unto Him then you do
not understand them for they truly
testify of Christ behold I say unto you
that none of the prophets it's a very
important point
none of the prophets have written nor
prophesied save they have spoken
concerning this Christ so here we have
those that have all of the scriptures a
complete denial of
what the prophets are talking about all
of the prophets have prophesied about
Christ and yet there is this desire this
force to corrupt this doctrine to get
rid of this doctrine of Christ and Jacob
goes on because he wants to make sure
this is included I know if there should
be no atonement made all mankind must be
lost and so that's obviously right at
the core of the doctrine of Christ the
doctrine of the son of God and then
Sherem comes back and says show me a
sign by this power of the Holy Ghost so
the Holy Ghost is part of the higher law
in which ye know so much so in other
words he doesn't believe in the Holy
Ghost he doesn't believe in the higher
light isn't believing that revelation
that would come from the Holy Ghost
that's what this is about that's what
the knee core principle is about core
whore is another character that comes in
and does not believe in Christ he does
not believe in God period and he's the
one that wants a sign for everything
Sharon wants a sign too but core whores
focus is very simply he's the Science
Guy right and I love science science
teaches us an awful lot but for core
whore he wants the proof first he does
not want to live by faith he doesn't
believe in trusting in principles he
wants everything brought to him and
shown to him basically he wants his
progress to be spoon-fed to him that's
the way I see it somebody who needs a
sign for everything is someone who wants
to be spoon-fed there's no growth in
that and then lastly we get to Nehor
himself this introduction comes right at
the very beginning and writing the
beginning of chapter 1 that's what
chapter 1 of the book of Alma is all
about Alma becomes the first chief judge
and the first example of him being chief
judge here is Nehor and Nehor goes
around and the way he's introduced
primarily is with priestcraft he wants
to be paid he wants to corrupt the
religion and he wants to be paid
he ends up killing Gideon the sword
fight Gideon his old remember Gideon is
the one who was the hero against King
Noah another anti-Christ
and here Gideon again late in his life
has to contend against another person
who was against the doctrine of Christ
and that's nee horny whore is a big man
and Gideon at this time is old and even
though he's a hero
war hero Nehor slays him and he's put
to trial with Alma and then he's well
he's put away with let's say but not
before he is able to get a very large
following and an ideology that is very
very firm that is completely against the
doctrine of Christ and if we go down to
chapter 6 we get a little bit more
information now me whore doesn't give us
a concise little doctrinal expose like
Sherem did but what he does and the
reason that I use his name as the
principal is that he is able to teach
this principle very well to a lot of
people and dig it in ideologically into
these people and there are a lot of
different groups of people that come
from this profession of the knee whores
one of them is the people of Ammonihah
remember this is where Alma goes as he
leaves being chief judge and he finds
Amulek and he teaches with Amulek
they're in Ammonihah and he's talking
about Christ he's focusing in on the
doctrine of Christ with a me like and
it's interesting here you find in this
story that this is where in Alma 13 we
get the whole thing on the
Melchizedek Priesthood on the higher law
they're going over the Melchizedek
Priesthood and the Son of God and the
higher law with the people of Ammonihah
Zeezrom the lawyer because that's what
they are against primarily they're
against anything to do with the higher
law any
to do with Christ and the whole people
have been converted they're all people
of Nehor well most of them but they
convince a few and then just like with a
bin a die those people that stick to
their guns and back up Alma and Amulek
and are basically carrying their
cross for Christ they're going to stick
to their guns and believing in the
doctrine of Christ they're put into the
fire and killed women children everybody
and then later the people of am and I
are completely wiped out by the
Lamanites interestingly in chapter 16 of
Alma we get something similar that laman
and lemuel say and really that King Noah
and his priests were saying as well and
that is that their great city could
never be destroyed because of its
greatness and because of their
righteousness
remember these are religious people we
get an idea sometimes that we have the
good guys you know Alma and a mule ik
and then the bad guys are irreligious
and that it's not true the people that
they are contending against may be more
religious in other words they could be
fanatical sometimes so the issue here
with a knee whore principle isn't
religion against non religion just good
against bad in that sense it's about how
that it's about the doctrine it's about
the doctrine being corrupted and changed
and the focus of that corruption is
always on the doctrine of the son of God
the doctrine of Christ so let's run
through some of the examples here
through the scriptures to get an idea of
how this new core principle works how it
takes effect and how the prophets react
to it first of all let's look at Moses
Moses takes the children of Israel out
of Egypt and while they are on in the
Exodus out in the wilderness he goes up
to Mount Sinai this is a crucial point
and something that Joseph Smith had a
lot to say about he goes up to Sinai and
he
brings down the law of God and he comes
back down and he finds Aaron with the
golden calf that's a whole other podcast
we'll go over and the people making
merry and in sin what does Moses do he
takes the tablets that he has the law of
God which is not the law of Moses at
least not alone and he takes them and he
breaks them gone now what did those
tablets include they included the
fullness of the gospel they included the
Melchizedek Priesthood they included
everything about Christ and the Holy
Ghost and all that would be encompassed
in the higher law remember that the Lord
said he wanted a nation of priests
well the nation of priests would be with
the Melchizedek Priesthood where that
could be given to all of the men and
where all people could participate in
the fullness of the temple ordinances
and become priests and priestesses
that's the Melchizedek priesthood but the
people rejected it not only did they sin
when Moses had come back down from Sinai
but they specifically said that they did
not want to see the face of God they did
not want to go up to the mountain to see
God that is a representation if you will
of the temple right they did not want to
go all the way through the temple where
they would have come to the veil and
meet God they did not want that now why
wouldn't somebody want that well there's
a number of things we can look at but
one at the time was they were not ready
to accept the doctrine of Christ
completely there's reasons for that one
of them is responsibility it's a higher
covenant you have to commit yourself to
something spiritually and they were not
ready to do it they couldn't do it and
so what happens Moses goes back up Sinai
he tries to intervene with the Lord
who's saying look I'm gonna wipe out the
Israelites now and he makes Atonement
for them Moses does in a sense he
actually he's kind of like the savior in
this sense in that kind of a role and he
says look take me instead and the Lord
says no any and they end up the Lord
ends up writing new a new law will kind
of law a lower law so what he comes back
down with is the Torah right the law of
Moses now but this is a lower law and he
comes down and he gives the law and
that's what the Israelites have that's
where they have all the way down to the
time of Jesus that doesn't mean the
Melchizedek Priesthood is gone Moses
held them okay as it increased it he
received the Melchizedek priests and from
his father-in-law Jethro
remember he married Zipporah who is a
Midianite so here you have an example of
a non Israelite Jethro who has the
Melchizedek Priesthood and he has a
lineage of that priesthood that goes
back to Abraham and you have an example
of Moses marrying a non Israelite as
well just like Joseph did so that's what
the Israelites have they are going to
focus on the lower law because they are
not ready for a higher law and in fact
they are going to wander in the desert
for forty years until that generation is
pretty much gone so that the new
generation is the one that's gonna come
into the Promised Land
that's important to understand they had
rejected the higher law which would be
the law of Christ at that point and then
we come down to the time of Isaiah and
we get another great example of this
this is very interesting Isaiah the King
at the time with Isaiah after a house
was Hezekiah and we get a lot of
writing during this time about Hezekiah
in the Book of Isaiah where Isaiah
writes in a way that is metaphorical
with Hezekiah where he is a king a
suffering servant and I believe that
this is a temple drama that they're
writing about where King Hezekiah is
acting in a sense as the son of God and
it's a metaphor that there
that they're putting together here but
one of the things king Hezekiah does is
he makes some reforms not just small
reforms he makes massive reforms and one
of the things that one of the reforms he
makes is he removes the nahusha tonne he
calls it he calls it an a hush ton which
would be the brazen serpent from the
temple now remember the brazen serpent
is what Moses held up in the wilderness
when the Israelites murmured and spoke
against God there were a lot of snakes
poisonous snakes fiery serpents that
were sent and bet the Israelites this is
something that happened you can find
this in in ancient historical documents
very ancient historical documents where
there are plagues of snakes it happens
in the Book of Mormon once or twice and
you can imagine going back to the Nile
where all of these plagues had just
happened
the Nile turning to blood the frogs the
the locusts this could very well have
been a reaction a very distant reaction
from this ecosystem being massively
disrupted but the Lord tells Moses to
make a brazen serpent put her on a staff
and hold it up well that's a sign of
healing right even today the the medical
sign is the two snakes around a staff so
look to the brazen serpent which is a
representation of Christ and we get that
parallelism again in the Book of Mormon
a couple of times and in the New
Testament several times where Christ is
made as a parallel to the brazen serpent
that the sub-region serpent is a symbol
of Christ and those that would look at
the brazen serpent would be healed from
their the poison and in the book of more
and more told that many died just
because it was so simple and that's the
point here they would not look
the brazen serpent because of the
simpleness of it remember the Jews later
on that looked beyond the mark it's an
attack on the doctrine of Christ but the
Nehushtan is a representation of
Christ why is the Nehushtan taken
out of the temple this is a
representative of Christ now we're told
in the Book of Kings that it's because
the people started to worship it in
other words idolize it they turned it
into an idol and they started burning
incense to it and making it something
that it was not that might be true might
not but the reason I say it might not is
because who knows if it came from higher
up in the priesthood where these changes
might have been made or if it was really
just the people the common people that
started to change what this brazen
serpent represented regardless whichever
way it happened there was a change in
the idea of the Nehushtan of the
brazen serpent and now we get the brazen
serpent which is kicked out of the
temple this is very interesting because
think about Genesis and the story of
Adam and Eve again we're at where
Satan says that he is the god of this
world he's trying to assert Christ and
what happens to him he's banished out of
out from Adam and Eve it's exactly what
happens with Anna Houston where it's a
serpent now and now the serpent here
would be like Satan and because it's
changed to represent something different
what was supposed to represent the true
God now represents the god of this world
and so it is tossed out and banished
it's pretty interesting regardless
though we have a change can you imagine
taking away pictures of Jesus that we
wouldn't
see that anywhere that we wouldn't see
paintings in our chapels that we
wouldn't see that in the Visitor Center
in the temple because of whatever reason
because we don't want to worship it
regardless of why this happened
it is a big change and it is against the
doctrine of Christ so that's a good
example this force that continues to
happen there is a constant fight against
the doctrine of Christ
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