'Paul's Family Proclamation'
- Continuation on 'Mysteries'
- The Veil and The Body of Christ
- Paul's Marital Advice on Physical Relationships
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LDS Mormon New Testament 1 Corinthians Bible
in this episode we're going to talk
about Paul's family proclamation there
we go in this episode we're going to
discuss first Corinthians chapters four
through seven where we get a little bit
of an idea of what we might call Paul’s
family proclamation now he carries this
proclamation throughout Corinthians and
beyond into some of the other epistles
as well but we get a real basis here a
little bit about men and women and the
order of the family and so we're going
to discuss that here in this episode but
we're gonna start off here in chapter
four which starts right off again with
the mysteries of god that we discussed
in the last episode here's what it says
it says let a man so account of us as of
the ministers of Christ and stewards of
the mysteries of God well who are the
stewards of the mysteries have a couple
of thoughts on that first it would
certainly be the priesthood holders
especially the Brethren right those that
have the keys of prophet seer and
Revelator but it might also be looked at
as those that are stewards are those
that have made the covenants so that's
men and women who have gone through the
mysteries that is they've gone all the
way through the ordinances of the temple
or even partially they've been baptized
that would in a sense also be a mystery
a way to think about mysteries is
we've talked about the temple and that's
kind of the core of it but there's a
couple ways to look at this first of all
mysteries are mysteries because they are
beyond the veil in other words they come
from heaven and they're veiled right so
we can look at that symbolically in the
temple as being from the Holy of Holies
with the sod as we discussed previously
the council in heaven in the
pre-existence that's where the mystery
came out the ordinances the principles
of the gospel the war in heaven all this
is about the mysteries and but in a
practical sense in an everyday sense we
are able to access the mysteries of God
through the veil every day we can do
that through prayer in a sense right we
can we can go through the veil and
receive there's a word for you re veil
Asian or revelation right it's coming
something that's coming back down to us
through the veil that's revelation and
we're all able to receive that for
ourselves for our own lives for our
families for our situations for the
world around us and he follows this up
with the same type of symbolism down
here in verse five he says therefore
judge nothing before the time until the
Lord come keep in mind it seems that
there is a real sense that the Lord is
coming very very soon here and that to
me is a principle it's a principle of
how you should live doesn't mean he's
coming right then you may be coming
hundreds or thousands of years later but
it seems that they believe that the Lord
here is going to be coming very shortly
he says who both will bring to light the
hidden things of darkness and will make
manifest the counsels of the hearts and
then shall every man have praise of God
so again it's kind of like bringing
things to light or revealing re veiling
things coming back through the
veil and this was the job of the high
priests in the in the in Judaism and in
the with the Israelites remember that
the high priests would wear a garment
and robes and these garment and robes
were a reflection of the veil it had the
same colors right red or scarlet purple
blue and the white linen and these were
representative of the different parts of
physical characteristics because the
veil represents physical matter and
that's what the high priests would wear
the priestly garment was the veil so to
speak and he's got the veil outside of
his body because his body is supposed to
be pure like the Holy of Holies and he
talks about these hidden things and
these seams of darkness coming to light
and he rolls out right into hypocrisy
and pride of course pride is a major
theme in the Book of Mormon and always
is it writes a matter of centering just
things on ourselves and focusing on
ourselves instead of focusing outside of
ourselves which is crucial that's where
truth is and he says the following he
says for who maketh thee to differ from
another in other words who makes you
unique what are your gifts that you have
been given that makes you different and
where do those gifts come from in other
words you as a person as an individual
everything that you have is a gift from
God and that's important to remember and
what half style that thou didst not
receive now if thou just receive it why
does thou glory as if thou hadst not
received it so you may have some
strengths we've talked a lot about
weaknesses and strengths he's going to
continue with this theme but the
strengths that you have are gifts one
way or another now you can say well I've
acquired these skills fine you've done
what is necessary to receive the gift
it's still the gift from God
because that plan and that process is
from him or you may have great health or
you may have a brilliant mind regardless
of what it is these are gifts from God
and he saying don't be puffed up about
this and going through that theme of
weakness he says here for I think that
God hath set forth us the Apostles last
in other words putting them in the
position of being last or as the
servants and those that are treated the
poorest at this time as it were
appointed to death for we are made a
spectacle unto the world into angels
into
we are fools for Christ's sake but ye
are wise in Christ we are weak but ye
are strong ye are honorable but we are
despised in other words because they are
the ones that are taking on the majority
of the responsibility with building the
church they're the ones that are have
the names out for good or for ill and
they take on the brunt of the criticism
and the stoning and the lashing and
eventually the death for many of them
and all the suffering because they are
the greatest servants in the church and
that's the way it's supposed to be now
that seems odd to us today we don't see
that with the Apostles for example now
we do a little bit right there's plenty
of criticism out there with the Apostles
but it's not to the point obviously that
Paul has gone through for example with
being stoned and thrown into jail
consistently now Joseph Smith on the
other hand right the one that was the
the call him the founder of the
restoration in a sense here on earth and
the one responsible for working with the
Lord in bringing about the restoration
of the gospel and building up the church
he did go through that right he did go
through these types of things that Paul
has gone through and it was eventually
killed because of what he believed and
what he was doing so the greatest among
us in that sense is kind of like what
Paul is saying here again is the weakest
in that sense or the most vulnerable the
most despised that's the role that they
take on and he's putting out a calling
card here again I made that phrase
before for example Moses who had a
speech impediment apparently although I
don't know that he really did Nephi says
the same thing right that he is he is
humble and imperfect we get the same
thing from Moroni and in Mormon
talking about how imperfect the records
are in the Book of Mormon and it's
because of the weakness
of men this is a calling card this is
something they're putting out there they
are being humble and submitting
themselves to something greater above
they're saying look this isn't from me
and that's what makes it a strength is
that they are weak because it's not from
them that's what they're pointing out it
is coming from somewhere else and they
don't quite live up to where that's
coming from
and he says something here that sounds
very familiar to us in verse 12 he says
and labor working with our own hands
being reviled and we bless being
persecuted we suffer it so it sounds a
lot like King Benjamin and he did the
same kind of thing right in that day of
atonement probably day of atonement type
of scenario in the Feast of Tabernacles
where they had all of the Tabernacles
all the booths the tents laid out in
front as there was a coronation with
Messiah and he talks about how he is the
least among them because he is serving
right he's the serving King he's the
servant King who is Christ mentioned as
in Isaiah he is the servant the
suffering servant and that is what is
being stated here they are in the
likeness of the Savior in that sense the
prophets and the apostles and then
quickly here he says something about a
father-and-son relationship or a father
and son daughter relationship really
which I find pretty interesting we have
the Savior who is the son now remember
he is not the son because he is
presented by his father who says behold
my only begotten son that is usually how
we think about it the son of God is a
title that has given to him not because
he is the son of the father which he is
but because he is the son of a mother
that's what the son of God means so
because he was born into mortality and
took on a body and then took on the sins
of the world and became a suffering
servant that is why he is the son
of God and Obinna dye makes that very
clear but here Paul starts talking about
how he is the father to those here in
Corinth that are following him he says
this he says for thou though ye have ten
thousand instructors in Christ yet have
ye not many fathers for in Christ Jesus
I have begotten you through the gospel
so through this relationship where they
have been born again and followed Paul
who follows Christ he's calling them his
sons and daughters and that he is the
father well Obinna dies does the exact
same thing with Jesus so sometimes we
get a little confused with the idea of
the Trinity and this is very possibly
kind of where this started to go in the
early church as the doctrine changed and
you ended up with one being with three
different characteristics right of the
Father the Son and the Holy Ghost a
Benetton I think it's in chapter 15 of
Messiah talks about how Christ is the
son because he's born of a woman and
he's also the father because we have
been begotten by him so who's we those
that are following him and we can talk
about being baptized in his name where
we are taking on his name right which
goes back to taking the Lord's name in
vain which I don't think has anything to
do with the word god it has to do with
taking on his name and acting as him and
if you do that in vain without purpose
then that's really where the sin is but
anyway just a tangent there so in this
sense we can see how maybe the Trinity
started to get a little bit implanted
with a Hellenistic Neo-Platonic
philosophy that was very prevalent at
this time in the Middle East and in the
West and in Greece and Rome and how here
Paul says he's the father we can see how
they would be saying that Christ was
their father
but then kind of all got pulled together
conflated together into one being that
would be very much in tune with the
philosophies of men of that day and then
he says something I think it's very
interesting here it sounds simple but in
verse 16 he says wherefore I beseech you
be ye followers of me so a better
translation to that is probably be ye
imitators of me and what does that mean
it means actors so again going to temple
imagery and drama when we talk about
drama we're talking about the plays and
the dramas of the temple which is what
the psalms is mostly all about and so
here he's saying be an imitator be an
act or act like me take on my role and
that's what we get with the temple
dramas right you have somebody a king in
the Queen of Judah or of Israel that
would act as themselves as the temporal
king and queen they would act as Jehovah
the king of kings and then they would
act as the men and women in the
congregation
yeah just like an Adam and Eve would
write we are all Adam and Eve Adam and
Eve can be Adam and Eve but really their
primary function is that they're us we
are Adam and Eve literally we are Adam
and Eve and we go through what Adam and
Eve go through and all of us have so
temple drama a very important principle
and interpreter that I use that we can
find throughout the scriptures and he
finishes up here in chapter 4 in verses
20 and 21 saying well how is it that I'm
gonna come to you remember he's writing
to them in this epistle and he's saying
do I come to you shall I come unto you
with a rod or in love and in the spirit
of meekness so we think of that
sometimes if you're a parent you may
think of that as or a boss how am I
going to approach my children or my
subordinates do I come in with love and
meekness and put my arm around them
do I need to come with a rod in this
instance and we can think about that rod
right what is the rod well a rod would
be something that would be used we can
think first of all for example with a
rod of a shepherd the rod of a shepherd
or that staff would be used to guide the
Sheep right oh you're getting off pace
here you're getting off of the path
knock-knock-knock on the side here right
get back over right a rod was used often
times or at least implied to be used by
especially men fathers with their
children and to correct them or at least
that was the idea right that it would be
used for that the rod was used for a
king and what did that rod represent it
represented authority and judgment right
that is the judgment if you're off that
path you're doing something wrong then
here's the rod and so we can think of
also Lehigh's dream even with the rod of
iron
what is the rod of iron it's the Word of
God and as we've talked a lot about the
law and what comes along with that his
judgment right it's the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil so when you
have the rod he's talking about the rod
of iron we can be thinking about hanging
on to the rod it may be that we're
walking up along the rod that's a real
possibility or we're hanging on to the
rod the rod is the Word of God and that
rod has judgment attached to it so kind
of an interesting little point of view
on that and then over here in Chapter
five we need to know that Paul is
responding to either a letter more
likely a letter or even a personal visit
from a disciple named Chloe and she had
gone over several points of what's going
on in Corinth and Paul is addressing
these things so fornication becomes a
pretty big deal here in Corinth and by
the way this is an adult-like
episode because Paul talks about adult
things here so I'm going to broach those
things but he says here that there's a
man that had married his stepmom right
so his father had married another woman
perhaps his first wife the
there's first wife was they'd got
divorced or she passed away and he
ended up marrying a second wife or third
who knows could have even banded the
sons when he was born in in childbirth
that the first that his mom actual mom
passed away that would not be uncommon
but Paul's not real happy about it right
he wants to talk about order and
structure and things that we don't do
especially with marriage and family and
so he's not real happy about her and he
goes down and he talks a little bit
about how we associate with those that
are fornicators or how we associate with
those who are not following and toeing
the line so to speak and it gets a
little bit confusing so we want to be
clear here on how this works is we want
to make sure that we're taking very much
a Christ-like point-of-view here and
reading some of Paul's words here it can
be a little bit confusing and he goes
back and talks again about pride and
about being puffed up now this is
important to point here I think that had
an interview last week with someone who
has worked a lot with a 12-step program
and they went over a couple things that
I found were really interesting and very
appropriate for the scriptures one is
that you've got to find a mentor right
you have to search for something outside
yourself in most cases people that are
involved with a 12-step program are
there because they're looking for
something outside of themselves and they
use drugs or alcohol or sex or whatever
it might be to try and fill that void
and because they don't find it the
happiness inside of themselves but part
of the 12-step program is saying look
you do need to look outside of yourself
you're just looking in the wrong place
you're using the wrong things and your
first thing you need to do is you need
to find a mentor somebody who is going
already going through this process and
who can help guide you need an
example and you need support somebody
who's reaching down and pulling up right
so this goes to my idea of the fluid
hierarchy and then the last step in the
12-step process actually is that you're
reaching down so now that you found a
men
for somebody that is supporting you
now need to find somebody that you can
help in both cases you're kind of
serving you're looking outside of
yourself when you're looking for someone
you can reach to the other you're
reaching down to pull somebody up and so
there's a hierarchy of hierarchical
structure that is put into place a
hierarchal structure of service a
hierarchical structure of reverence and
humility and strength and power the
opposite of doing that is to be puffed
up and to be proud and so he combines
this with well again what we've heard
about in the Gospels about unleavened
bread and leavened bread this is what he
says and ye are puffed up and have not
rather mourned that he that hath done
this deed married his stepmom might be
taken away from among you so he's saying
look this is someone who needs to be
removed from the congregation that's his
judgment on this situation and he says
down here in verse 6 your glorying is
not good so you can see people may be
like oh this is a great thing this is he
loves her they're in love you see it's
about a lot of situations today right
where there's kind of a celebration of
things that may not be proper and he
said he calls it glorying which is not
good here and then he says know ye not
that a little leaven leaveneth the whole
lump in other words a little bit of
yeast in the bread causes the entire
loaf to be puffed up that's where
they're saying when they say puffed up
or with leavened bread that's the idea
behind the love and bread is that it's
puffed up as in being proud it's also
used for a term of hypocrisy as well
which is I'm going to tell others
outside of me how things should be but I
have I'm proud and I can follow my own
judgment and my own rules for myself and
therefore I am hypocritical so we find
that in the Gospels also hypocrisy
aligned with love and bread but remember
where love and bread comes from and
unleavened bread comes from it's the
Passover and so in the Passover as you
would think about leavened bread and
unleavened bread remember that the
Israelites were in Egypt
and they snuck away in the middle of the
night they had to leave quickly and they
did not have time the thought on this is
they did not have time to wait for the
bread to rise and so all the bread would
be unleavened and so what it means is
look it's quick obedience its urgency to
the word of the Lord into the gospel to
the commandments obedience and not doing
that or in other words putting leaven in
the bread the yeast and the bread and
waiting for it to rise is saying I'm not
immediately responsive to the
commandments of God or getting out of
Egypt as fast as I can right I'm
thinking about myself and my own rules
he says purge out therefore the old
leaven that ye may be a new lump a new
loaf as ye are unleavened
for even Christ our Passover is
sacrificed for us so he is talking about
basically excommunication here with
people if they've crossed a certain line
he's saying there needs to be a rule
here for excommunication of course
there's plenty in the scriptures here to
talk about the proper process of
repentance as well but here he's talking
about excommunication he says here for
even Christ our Passover is sacrificed
for us so again he's tying in the
Passover or what is also called the
feast of unleavened bread therefore let
us keep the feast not with old leaven
neither with the leaven of malice and
wickedness but with the unleavened bread
of sincerity and truth right so if you
have over Passover the unleavened bread
these are all nuances meanings that go
along with that unleavened bread at the
Passover then he says that he's written
to them previously now we don't have
this letter that would be the true first
Corinthians so this is really second
Corinthians and second Corinthians early
third Corinthians so he's having to
write several times it would be
interesting to see if that letter was
ever found
if he's talking about a lot of the same
problems that just don't seem to get
fixed here in Corinth but he says here
but now I have written unto you not to
keep company this is interesting
seems like there's a
a little bit of a conflict here he says
I've written unto you not to keep
company if any man that is called a
brother that's a member be a fornicator
or covetous or an idolater or a railer
or a drunkard or an extortioner with
such an one no not to eat in other words
don't eat with that individual so we
might think about how Christ treated
this for Christ he sat with the sinners
and he ate with the sinners remember the
Pharisees were furious about this
Matthew was one of those sinners one of
his apostles who was a tax collector and
he sits with them and he talks to them
and says look who's in need of healing
who's in need of the physician it's
those that are sick he's talking about
spiritually sick but here Paul seems to
be saying don't even eat with these
people but what he very well may be
saying here is don't take the bread and
the water of the bread and the wine
don't have sacrament with them
so in other words just like in our
process here where we may be going
through a repentance process we may not
be partaking of the sacrament and that's
something that could very easily be what
is being discussed here but he's saying
look I mean you’re all kind of a
body here and he says in other places
and other epistles if there's a problem
with the arm cut off the arm right and
don't let it diseased the entire body so
to speak so there is definitely a
process for repentance if the person is
willing to repent but there is also a
process of separation if the person is
not going to repent then another one of
the issues that Chloe the disciple had
with Paul had told Paul about was that
she was saying that a lot of the members
were suing each other or you know like
there would be conflicts that's normal
and among those conflicts when they had
those conflicts they would take it to a
Gentile court to a Roman Court or a
Greek Court and Paul was saying don't do
that right we have our own set of rules
maybe our own ethics the Gentiles here
have very different values and so we
need to have our own courts and we need
to resolve these problems for ourselves
which is something that we do today as
well now not beyond the law of the land
of course here or anywhere else but we
do have our own courts in our own
process to try and fix things we have
counseling and bishops and state
presidents and actual courts if we need
them and then Paul comes back and
revisits the idea of our bodies and in
temples which he has this theme going on
throughout a lot of the epistles he says
here in verse 13 now the body is not for
fornication but for the lord and the
lord for the body in other words just
like you being unique with your
spiritual and your intellectual and
emotional gifts your body is a gift and
the body is for the lord and so you
don't take that and give it elsewhere
right that would be betraying him and so
he's using that as a metaphor for
fornication now it also means actual
fornication here but it's also saying
you are an adulterous generation so to
speak right and he's using the body with
that now that what that really means is
you're breaking your covenants with the
Lord when they say that you're an
adulterous generation he says here then
in verse 14 and God hath both raised up
the Lord and will also raise us up us by
his own power so look you're going to
have a body that is perfected why are
you going to defile it know ye not that
your bodies are the members of Christ so
the body members of Christ right his
body is we are part of his body in that
sense that has a lot to do with the
sacrament by the way that we partake of
every Sunday but another thing to
remember is is that he previously said
to take on the body of Christ to take
off take on Christ upon us we talked
about that as an allusion to
the garment the temple garment I think
that's very true and here he's talking
about us being a part of Christ and
that's also a representation of the
garment remember that when Christ's body
when he was pierced in the side with a
spear that that happened in one place so
he had the piercing of the spear and
then in another gospel we get the veil
in the temple is rent when he dies so in
both cases we have a splitting of the
veil or the body it's the same thing
right so are our bodies in a sense are
the veil and the garment represents that
body of a garment represents that veil
just like the high priests robes would
be worn and were similar if not almost
identical to what the veil was and the
Temple of Solomon and he follows up here
and says shall I then take the members
of Christ that's us
and make them the members of an harlot
god forbid what know ye not that ye that
he which is joined to an harlot is one
body for to say if he shall be one flesh
that's a reference back to Genesis right
Genesis 2 I think and so here it's you
know a man shall leave his mother and
his father and shall cleave unto his
wife and the them Twain or those two
shall become one flesh well there's a
lot of ways to look at that number one
in a physical sense of course we are
joined together through a sexual
experience and our bodies in a sense
become one now on a spiritual and an
emotional level it's the same way our
spirits and emotionally and even
intellectually perhaps we are becoming
more one we get to know each other very
very well and we trust each other and we
support each other and we become one
being in a sense or two parts of one
being
since and then lastly we can also look
at a man and a woman creating one flush
right your DNA your genes the proteins
and amino acids and everything that
come from you and that together create a
child a baby that child in a sense is
one flesh right from two from the two of
you and down in verse 19 he says what
know ye not that your body is the temple
of the Holy Ghost which is in you and
again this goes back to our body is
actually the temple and our body isn't
like the temple that we go to for the
ordinances but the temple that we go to
for the ordinances is like our body our
bodies are the true temples that's what
is eternal which he have of God so it's
given to us from God and ye are not your
own
so again these are gifts everything
comes from somewhere else and he says it
is bought with a price that would be the
atonement then in chapter 7 he goes
through some of the practices that he
believes he talks about this as being
suggestions right it's kind of like a
word of wisdom or the way the word of
wisdom used to be about marriage and
about sex and about fornication and he
says here in verse 1 this is kind of
hard to understand I'll try and unpack
us a little bit he says now concerning
the things whereof ye wrote unto me and
then it's a colon here it says it is
good for a man not to touch a woman or
is it good for a man not to touch a
woman well the answer here is different
than you might think it is because what
they're basically saying is for a
married couple is abstinence okay and
this would be something that would have
been a thread of sacrifice that would
sometimes be made right you can see this
going back to like the monks the
Catholic monks even right where are they
or the eunuchs where there is a full
life pledge to abstinence well what
could happen at times is that a married
couple might say look we're going to
abstain from physical relationship a
physical relationship at least for a
while as part of kind of like a fast
right that we're going to do this to
help purify ourselves in a way but
here's his answer he says nevertheless
to avoid fornication let every man have
his own wife and let every woman have
her own husband so he's saying this
might not be such a good idea long term
and then he makes us pretty clear this
goes back to the two of you becoming one
flesh a man or a woman becoming more
flesh he says let the husband render
unto the wife due benevolence well that
would be his body what it's saying and
likewise also the wife unto the husband
so he's giving us some marital advice
here part of the family proclamation but
maybe with a little bit more candor than
the version from the 1990s and then in
verse 4 it says the wife hath not power
of her own body but the husband Oh what
is this saying well let's follow through
on the verse here and it says and
likewise also the husband hath not power
of his own body but the wife right
because they are one flesh in other
words you are you're of each other and
in verse 5 defraud ye not one the other
that means do not abstain from the other
except it be with consent for a time
that you may give yourselves to fasting
and prayer so that's kind of like that
idea of abstinence for a short time
that you're trying to be more pure and
more spiritual and come together again
that Satan tempt you not for your
incontinency so he's saying look it's a
bad idea to try and go through Aston's
for a long period of time and he says
specifically here though he says but I
speak this by permission and not of
commandment this is his advice then he
says something interesting here he says
that I would that all men were even as I
myself but every man hath his proper
gift of God one after this
and another after that what apparently
he is saying here is that he is right
now single and maybe he's been for a
long time we don't know for sure but
maybe he is able to conquer his lusts
and his physical drives a lot more than
a lot of men are able to do it's so he's
saying you know it would be great if you
could be like me
in this sense not sure if I'd agree with
that but and then he goes and he gives
advice here for those that are unmarried
and that our widows and it's good for
them if they abide even as I so alone
and single now keep in mind here that
what he's saying again this is not
commandant he's giving advice and it's
very possible even likely that he is
expecting the coming of the Lord in a
very short period of time and so that's
not what's going to happen but that is
kind of what he's thinking it looks like
and so he's saying look what's the point
he's gonna be here pretty soon and
everything's gonna be different so
context is important with what he's
saying here he's saying if you cannot be
like me he says but if they cannot
contain themselves basically let them
marry for it is better to marry than to
burn or to burn with desire so he's
being very practical here right he's
saying look these are these are physical
drives these are passions that we all
have and they're dangerous if they're
not put on course so if that's the issue
then make sure you put them on course
that's the most important thing and then
he follows up with the couple the
married couple that has one believer and
one non-believer so a part member family
and he gives this advice in verse 12 he
says but to the recipe guy not the Lord
so this is also his advice he says if
any brother hath a wife so any member
have a wife that believeth not and she
be pleased to dwell with him let him not
put her away and the woman which hath an
husband will that believeth not and if
he be pleased to dwell with her
let her not leave him so he's saying
look this union of marriage is paramount
so don't let the idea that somebody is
not going to be a believer get in the
way of that marriage as long as you love
each other and you support each other
here he says in verse 14 for the
unbelieving husband is sanctified by the
wife and the unbelieving wife is
sanctified by the husband elsewhere your
children unclean but now are they holy
so in other words you've got a member of
the family a parent and adult that is a
believer and that is abiding by the
covenants and that will create an
influence with the spouse and with the
children that is has eternal
ramifications so there is a role to be
played there in verse 16 for what
knowest Thou O wife whether thou shalt
save thy husband or how knowest Thou O
man whether thou shalt save thy wife and
that is what we're supposed to be doing
right we're supposed to be saviors also
then he talks about those that are have
never been married and he says look I
mean if you've never been married maybe
stay that way if you are married then
stay that way and again this kind of
goes along with his idea this is not by
commandment he's very specific about
this it's just kind of a proclamation by
him and he's in a place where he
believes that the Savior it looks like
is going to be coming very shortly so
it's like why why change things very
much here he's talking about the
circumcised you don't need to become
circumcised and the uncircumcised don't
need to be circumcised the Unser the
circumcised don't need to try and
reverse which is something that some
people did try to do reverse their
circumcision it's like just kind of stay
where you're at it's all okay
circumcised circumcision doesn't matter
anymore and this is actually interesting
because it's tied to the Doctrine and
Covenants where Joseph Smith is talking
about infant baptism and so if you go to
the Old Testament with the Joseph Smith
translation he actually ties
circumcision which happens on the eighth
day
after birth - baptism which should be
happening on the eighth year after birth
and so you get this idea that okay they
believed that the child the male child
here needed to be sanctified had to be
made holy and you know getting that idea
for the Jews out of their minds that
okay we're not going to circumcise a
male baby would be a very very difficult
change right you would feel I think
guilty is a soul engrained in in your
idea of covenant with God but it's
interesting that that is kind of tied to
baptism by Joseph Smith and what ends up
happening with the church over time is
that infant baptism starts to take place
and you get this idea just like the Jews
had here of having to be circumcised for
a baby to be circumcised we then get in
place of that it looks like this idea
that there needs to be infant baptism
that we need to make the child in the
Covenant and baptized immediately which
we know is definitely not the case and
in fact it is preached against by many
prophets so this is kind of the
beginning of the unfolding of Paul's
family Proclamation he talks a lot about
marriage he talks about the order of
marriage and how important that is
and the two becoming one and what are
some of the practices and beliefs of
some of the conflicts that married
couples might run into
and he'll continue with this and talk
more about gender roles for example men
and women and the family throughout
Corinthians and some of the other
epistles I'll talk to you next time
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