Most of us have had personal or family experience dealing with schools and government encroaching on parental rights. There has been a "woke madness" that has infiltrated our institutions and the kids are the most vulnerable targets. Tina Descovich is the Co-Founder and Executive Director of Moms For Liberty. Her organization works to fend off government encroachment on parental rights and stand up for families.
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all right what a great interview with Tina Descovich she is the co-founder and executive director at Moms for Liberty
an incredible organization that has flourished grown nationwide in just the
last several years very impressive what they've been able to do they fight for parental rights if you have kids or
grandkids they are at the very grassroots level of uh school boards and
all the way up right even into the state and federal levels where they fight against government overreach and the
woke madness that is encroaching in on our schools and in our families tina is
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right welcome to Quick Show my name is Greg Matson and I am your host in this episode we have brought on Tina Desovich
the co-founder and current executive director of Moms for Liberty tina welcome to the show it's great to be
here with you Greg i'm very excited about this this is a topic that we cover quite a bit and that is rolling into the
the subject of parenting and parental rights versus state rights this is what your organization works on and deals
with and so I really want to talk about this and get an idea of where you think things are going now there's been
administrative change here in in in our political situation this year are we moving forward are we moving backwards
where do parental rights sit currently we're definitely moving forward so I served on a school board here in Florida
from 2016 to 2020 and that's what kind of led to the launch of Moms for Liberty is my co-founder and I she also was
serving on a school board in another part of the state here in Florida but what we saw were parental rights being
stepped on uh you know and by the time 2020 happened they were being trampled on and so we started Monster Liberty so
parents could organize and be effective in their advoc in their advocacy work uh
defending and protecting parental rights for obvious reasons I think to anyone that's a parent but uh you know once we
lose our right to raise our children uh and and the government has inserted itself in our family our family unit is
done and um that's a real problem i think a lot of people are we're starting to catch on to that in 2020 and 2021 and
so uh I you know the parental rights movement from that time period to now
it's just it's astounding to watch that the people that have woken up and gotten engaged uh we have gotten in the last
three years 55 bills uh signed into law in 18 different states and so protecting
parental rights or or improving education so it the movement is definitely in the right direction okay
so the movement is the right direction first of all how did we get here though why are we in this position at this
point why is there such a need for an organization like yours so I think you
can look at it from a few different angles and there's a few different reasons we've gotten here uh a very
simple reason is parents have abdicated their responsibilities uh with their children and our
organization doesn't necessarily call out parents enough i think uh you know and from working or serving on a school
board and working in a school district for a number of years and volunteering for you know a bazillion air years when
my kids were younger I saw parents abdicating their responsibility i live in an a pretty affluent area uh but you
know I volunteered in the front office and one day a kid got dropped off with no shoes so you know the front office clerk has to run down to Walmart or the
closest store and grab the kids some shoes and so when parents don't do their job uh schools have to pick up where the
parents are falling down and so that's at the highest that's like the most altruistic reason I think it's happening
uh but obviously there is evil at work and uh the goal of some organizations
some people and ultimately the the darkness in the world is to divide families and to destroy families and you
know disrupt God's plan and so uh you can look at it from that aspect too and
watch over decades how the family is being attacked and disintegrated and the easiest way to do that is to take away
parental authority to raise their children so parents are abdicating their
responsibility to bring up their kids i'm going to keep going down that path a little bit why what has happened what has changed what are the cultural
differences that have come up that have caused parents to begin to do this is it is it an issue of pride is it an issue
of culture is it family structure what what's going on it's a great question i
don't know that I necessarily have the answer to why parents would abdicate their responsibility except some people
when other people will do the job for them take the opportunity to let other people do the job for them and that is
an unfortunate situation happening historically across America the last decade or so more and more of that is
happening and uh we have to work as communities to strengthen one another and support one another and parenting is
hard and once you go through a divorce and you're a single parent parenting gets even harder and so with the divorce
rates going up parents uh have to focus on funding their family working and raising their family and they leave
their kids to the schools so I'm going to ask a hard question here that that something that is being talked about a
little bit more here on my show anyway and that is what about the family structure i mean when I was a kid and I
was going to elementary school at least a young kid well almost
all throughout elementary school my mom was a stay-at-home single mom so even
back then the idea back then was okay well my parents split apart they were both really good people couldn't live with each other and they both decided
that my dad was going to support his family his new wife and their kids and
her his ex-wife and her kids all being his kids and she was going to stay home
until the youngest kid was at least in elementary school right so for five years and my mom went to PTA meetings
right she was involved in the school and volunteering that's a lot tougher thing in America
today where most now mo most uh uh households have two different incomes
and many of them feel they need to have two incomes doesn't that make a big difference yeah it makes a huge
difference and kudos to your parents for being able to work that out i do I can't think of anyone I know at all that has
an arrangement like that where after a divorce the husband is willing I mean sometimes they're forced to by court
orders or such to you know to pay alimony or child support that often still isn't enough in today's economy uh
but someone that's actually willing to still support his ex-wife so that she can be home to raise the children is
amazing uh you know I have been a working mom most of my life i have been a stay-at-home mom at times too and even
as a working mom you can put your children first uh it's a hard balance it's not as easy uh my years home with
my babies were you know so important and uh it was lovely and wonderful to be
able to to focus my energy on them but even the years where I worked you there's always you know you have to pick
and choose good better best as we're taught and so um best is always your
children or your family you know your spouse your family your children and so I just I I don't think people I think I
I'm shocked at your story about your parents i've never heard anybody doing something Yeah that Well but think about
it like putting kids first is what we should be doing i think in America especially since 2020 and in 2020 we
were putting kids last in education we put kids last we put the teachers unions first and the teachers needs first and
and and parents are becoming selfish and putting their needs first and going through divorces and putting their their
financial needs first and putting the kids you know it's just there's so much of that happening today and really what
it comes down to is not putting children first so you said that the parental movement
let's say the parental rights movement is is is has gotten more steam in the last number of years how much did co add
to that because one thing I did you know when I was talking about BYU you know you're you're a member of the church i
was talking about BYU calling out what was going on there one of the ways I found out outside of some direct
messaging but was I actually went on and I looked at all of their Zoom classes
that were broadcast and put onto their channel and they were showing everything
that was happening the things that were actually being taught by some of these professors was
unbelievable and so I put it out there and started calling them out on it was there was part of this kind of that
transparency where kids are at home and they're getting their their their classes online and the parents are like
"What what is this?" 100% so my co-founder and I like to say when we served on school board we saw behind the
education curtain and then COVID happened and all of America all the parents saw behind the education curtain
you saw what was being taught or the lack of what was being taught to your children you saw that school boards did
not want you there as much as teachers and schools were saying "Oh parents you know your involvement is vital to the
success of your students." When parents really wanted to start getting involved the answer was no your mic was shut off the doors were locked we we have stories
of parents that uh uh we have a story in California where a school a sitting
elected schoolboard member the school board did not like his opinions and views and so they just wouldn't send him
the link for the meetings once they moved to Zoom so you know what the tyranny that we saw happen during COVID
uh you know was at every level but what we saw happening in schools uh woke up parents across the country and
absolutely fueled the parents rights movement yeah i I went uh I I also once
uh this was a few years ago I went through and they the state of California I started reading all of the curriculum
for the states i mean the most boring thing you can imagine but what you end
up finding in there is is it's it's incredible what they actually have it's
not just a rogue teacher here and there it's actually what's in the state curriculum and I went through California
as an example read 1,300 pages on their curriculum and and saw
all of this advocacy for activism for DEI programs um for uh you know they
they'd have things like gathering together and and learning certain chants that were all part of the curriculum it
was it was crazy and it just got worse as you went up in in the grades right a little bit in elementary school you get
to junior high in high school and then it's just Pandora's box has been opened um is that kind of on your end with the
organizations which you work on a little bit is at the state level through going through policy going through uh law to
make sure that this curriculum and agenda cannot continue to push forward so Moms for Liberty is organized at the
local level so we're organized by county uh there's 3,000 counties in the United States we have about 320 chapters right
now and uh we fight at all levels of government our mission statement is to
save America by unifying educating and empowering parents to defend their parental rights at all levels of
government and we start at the schoolboard level because that is where most of the infractions are happening uh
but since since our launch in 2021 we're just four and a half years old uh we have moved into state advocacy and so
our chapters then all form these legislative committees each person gets a vote and they um they put together a
legislative agenda and that's how we've gotten those uh 55 bills in 18 states across finish lines uh but we start at
that most local level and for example one of our chapters in Tennessee our Williamson County chapter right out of the gate when they launched they spent
over a thousand hours reviewing the K5 language arts curriculum and it's it's kind of what you were saying uh they
were they started highlighting where they had concerns and then you know they mapped it out on the walls in the room
and what they saw with the trend that they saw where something made you feel like oh this isn't the greatest thing
for my child to be learning but it feels a little weird but it's not that big of a deal but when you looked at it uh in
conjunction from when what they learned in kindergarten and how it was built on uh you know and this is language arts
they're supposed to be learning English and grammar and things of that nature but what was happening in the wit and wisdom curricula ulum there in Tennessee
was in kindergarten they were teaching them about how seahorses how the men carry the baby and how uh you know they
were using animals and things to start to start blurring the lines in gender and in sex and so you know our chapter
pointed it out and they got made fun of terribly like oh you're afraid of seahorses they went after them like crazy but the point was not that
kindergarten lesson but when you watched what they built on by the time fifth grade happened the sexes were completely
blurred and I actually had a conversation with somebody at the US Department of Education who used to be a state uh secretary of education just a
few weeks ago and she said she called the creator of that curriculum uh during that time period and and and straight
asked her like "Is your purpose here to to blend and blur the lines between genders is that what you guys are
actually doing?" And she admitted it she said yes they don't even hide behind what they're trying to do and so parents
have to actually read every word in these books this is K5 language arts
curriculum that's trying to blur genders so what else are they infusing all types of things that same set of curriculum in
second grade had a whole nine-week section on on that was basically
critical race theory it was dividing kids by you know by by race and teaching them one was oppressed and one was an
oppressor and that led to a child going home to their mom a mixed race child saying he hated his white half of his of
his body which obviously he doesn't have a white half and a black half but uh he hated that he had white in him after
nine weeks of that lesson and so the the curriculum out there across the country all over the place is doing great damage
but parents have to be awake and they have to do their duty to look at those at at all of the books
you know when I was uh we we were from California and and
love California love California and we what was this 2001 uh I had had as my
first grade teacher a teacher that was in her very first year of teaching and
then when we returned to California much later my daughter had that same teacher
in her last year of teaching in kindergarten and so we kind of knew her a little bit
my my wife and her became kind of friends she was older but she she she came she called one day she called my
wife and she said "Look there is a story and some work that we're going to do."
This is a kindergarten class um that is going to be about two princes that are
in love and live in the same uh the same palace and and and kind of pushing this
whole agenda brought her very you know numerous other examples of how this can work for girls and etc right that was
the last straw for my wife that was it i mean as soon as that was put in because we'd had other issues already we we were
we were gone 6 months later and moved to Arizona but that curriculum fight is
really difficult because it's not just you have the state you've got the districts and and you've got the
teachers unions that are all pushing for this in many cases a unanimous
agenda that is inserting this information into our kids and and many times kids don't even know it
when I was growing up maybe when you were growing up we had that you had to send home a permission slip for these
types of things and now usually you've got there there's no notification whatsoever for the parents of of this
happening this teacher could have lost her job if people knew she called my mom you know is there anything that's being
worked on that at all what why are we in a position where teachers are given that type of license to cover those type of
topics without sending home a permission slip for a five and six-year-old kid
it's infused in the curriculum uh at the state level like you said at the at the local county and school district levels
there's there's a lot of different things there's the social emotional learning curriculum which is a whole ball of you know a beast that we could
talk about for hours on its own and then there's everything else there's the the English curriculum the even math word
problems have this stuff infused in it it's really going to take every parent on alert president Trump has signed some
executive orders recently that help with some of the the the racial dispar or the
racial racial discrimination that you're seeing in some of these lessons and some of these topics uh but not all of not
everything has been addressed yet and you know if you want to dig into like comprehensive sexed for example whole states have approved that and and oh
gosh I just actually got back from Poland a couple weeks ago uh they flew me over there because they're about to
get comprehensive sex head in their in their country and they You say Poland yeah they're a devoutly if Poland takes
it in then we're all in trouble yeah they're a devoutly Catholic country and uh they have a new radical ed minister
who September 1st they're getting comprehensive sex ed and if your viewers are like "Oh sexed it's a film strip
beep." And it's the it's the you know the boy and the girl parts no that's not comprehensive sex ed comprehensive sex
ed starts teaching children in kindergarten that they can be a boy or a girl neither a both it teaches about all types of sex uh natural and unnatural
teaches about abortion uh by fifth grade it it's really um it's not okay by most
parents standards and so whole states are adopting comprehensive sex headed whole countries are adopting it because
it's coming out of and I don't know how deep you want to get into this but it's coming from the International Planned Parenthood Federation and through them
they're pushing it into the United Nations UNESCO the WHO and so globally
these things are happening last year I was in London uh with a group and there was a guy there from Kenya I think and
he said in a village in his country a little remote village they were teaching
gender ideology to their to their six and seven year olds and so it's it's a global problem uh because there are
people with agendas that are trying to drive it globally yeah you know I did some work with the
UN uh well for an organization that worked with the UN back in early 2000s
and and so I had read through a lot of what the UN was doing and especially in Africa in fact and and it was already
difficult back then uh but what is changed with the UN which is really interesting is that it used to be that
the UN would try and export its stuff mostly from Europe into the United
States and elsewhere and and the vernacular and everything else was was from Europe and
now I've gone through this again i'm back with that organization i'm working with them a little bit and I've gone
through again and looked at that in the last 12 months in what's going on it's our language it's the United States
language it's the United States agenda and they're taking it and they're we're exporting it we're the exporters of this
garbage out to the United Nations that then is trying to spread it all around
and and and Africa is they're such a uh a v in such a vulnerable position because they need as much assistance as
they can get from from organizations like the United Nations and they're going to accept it and usually it comes with a caveat of well we're going to
insert this here with this program and with this money and uh but I mean s I
studied this I've studied this stuff for 12 years and I could go down and underline all of the sentences and
information that is very very uh religion of academia type of stuff that
is exported from the US and not from the from the European not from the Europeans
um that's not really in your realm I suppose of what you're working on but it is it is a big change on United States
being front and forward with the United Nations on indoctrinating kids around the world it
actually is it ties in exactly because the roots of it come from the United States and you can go back to you know
1950 with Dr alfred Kenzie i don't know how much your people really or you want to dig into the the disgusting history
there but that's where all this starts from and you can trace it back to right here in the United States to his studies
and research that he did on uh infants and toddlers which uh if anybody wants to look that up and read about it it's
it's unacceptable it's despicable it's disgusting it's a crime uh but there there are people in the United States
including the international planned parenthood foundation which is or federation which is planned parenthood
as we know it here in the United States uh they praise his work and what he has done and how that can blend gender uh
and sexuality and it's it is um I don't know I'll tell you when I read Dr
kinsey's book a few years ago for the first time because I I didn't really believe it because you know you see clips on the internet and and you're not
really sure what to believe and what not to believe so I ordered an original copy uh from an old bookstore of both his
sexuality in men and women and I honestly laid in bed for about 3 days with a migraine after that because I was
physically ill uh from reading this the study and the research that that man did and it has led directly to what we're
seeing i don't know if you've ever seen the genderbred person it used to be like genderbreadperson.com it's in schools
all over the country it's what they're using to teach children that they can be a boy or a girl or neither of both and that gender is different than sex they
used to say on the front page of their website like we we have got we our research to prove all of this is is we
get it from Dr alfred Kinsey that's where I first learned about him i had never heard about him until I went to their website after someone had sent me
the genderbread person probably in 2020 and so I went to their website and I was like who's this Dr alfred Kinsey and I I
went down that hole and and now we know it's right here in the United States of America it is our fault we are the ones
that h are behind this that have allowed this that are celebrating it on so many levels and it's really heartbreaking
well it by the way gend the genderbread person is taught at BYU or has been taught at BYU i've got video and audio
and etc of that being taught uh and yeah understanding the origins of
these things you know what's really interesting Tina is that that there are you think that this is most people are
good people and and so you know if you're good parents right and and they they think about this and like your
experience with Dr kinsey it's like they don't believe that people are actually
like this they don't actually say "Well this pro this isn't that bad it's it can't be that bad."
But at the core of what actually the sourcing of these things and these ideas
the sourcing of the indoctrination they are from people that are that they are
horrific there are horrific people and and they have I I have learned so much
in the last 13 years because it's these philosophers and experimenters and
academics and and those that are involved with these things a handful of people have an immense amount of
influence on how our culture works and I never used to believe that i didn't think that that could possibly be true
but the DNA is all there you run back through postmodernism you run through Marxism all of them are about throwing
off the shackles of sexuality uh and and or or the limits of of your of your of a
sexual order um they're they're all the same the these few
individuals change the world and and it's kind of an invitation I think for us to say hey a few individuals can
change the world and can make it you know going the other way uh we absolutely believe that at Moms
for Liberty and that's what we're doing and so we started four and a half years ago with two chapters here in Florida uh
my co-founder and myself uh got two moms that were in each of our communities to start the first two chapters we met in
January of 2021 and moms are changing they're changing what is happening
they're fighting the direction i would say the stuff going on in the White House right now is a direct result of the work that our organization has done
we have grown in the last four and a half years to 48 states i will say since many of your listeners are probably LDS
we are missing two states and one of them is Utah we no one in Utah has started a chapter and Vermont is the
second state uh we have 30 almost 40 chapters now we have 30,000 active moms
on the ground i already told you about the bills we've won 450 school board seats trying to take our school boards
back we have 18 more today right now uh in that we'll find out about probably by
the time this airs in Wisconsin that we've endorsed in and uh we just keep fighting and we keep going um we have
been at the White House for many bill signings for the past two months with President Trump because these are issues
that he knows and the administration knows that we are fighting uh fighting
clawing at to fight in this country and what's happening the thing is is though he's he's writing these executive orders
but our parents are still turning up every single day across the country violations of it school boards that are
voting vocally out front saying they're going to violate the executive orders they're violating state laws we have
governors like Gavin Newsome in California who has stood to say he's going to violate uh the executive orders
and so now we have Congress trying to write bills to protect children uh to protect our culture to protect America
and I hope people will wake up and get engaged you know when I was reading that
curriculum in certain states Utah was one of the worst and in my opinion right
when I went through and I had read the curriculum in Utah I think I had three utah Illinois and California I thought
were the worst ones I thought in in in I probably read a couple dozen uh of these states with curriculum and I don't know
why Utah a place like Utah would be in a position that they're in
um the funding that goes in there even for the politicians I know comes from very interesting places um I I know
Governor Cox has made a big change on a number of different things hopefully that's a positive and it's not a charade
but I mean the NEA which is one of the biggest cults in America
uh was the biggest funer for for Governor Cox in his first term oh boy people don't realize that they he they
were the biggest biggest don d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d donor in in Governor Cox's run in whatever that was
for his first term i did an episode on that because I went back and I looked at all the public information i'm like what in the world and sure enough he signs
the DEI stuff he's signing he's talking about his pronouns to kids on broadcasts
now he's made a 180 it looks like i I don't know maybe he sees the writing on the wall for his political future but um
yeah if you're in Utah you you maybe consider Moms for Liberty because you
should take a look at what your curriculum says it's it's not good i I did not know that about the NEA
being his biggest donor 99.9% or 99.8% of their donations go to
Democrats so that is fascinating information that he slipped in and that 0.01% what is the NEA doing donating to
Governor Cox in his run what what what what backroom deal was made on this the
NEA is is an awful entity they have come after parents they have they colluded with the White House you know public
records requests are all coming out now and showing uh their collusion with the Biden administration in targeting
parents as domestic terrorists as putting threat tags on us as having the FBI investigate us for showing up for
meetings and so I have no no love for the NEA i think they are a corrupt horrible organization if you look at
their agendas uh just their summer that they have you know there it's all public
information especially in 20 like 2021 2022 hasn't gotten much better but in
those years you know that's when I first started paying attention and looking there was nothing to do with education on their national conventions in the
summer they were taking stands on Israel and an abortion and and everything and anything but nothing to do with reading
writing and let's just oh you know I could go on this one about the teachers union for a very long time but let's talk about school closures the the LA
teachers union during COVID they I think they were going on two years of being closed and they came out publicly and said "Until you defund the police in Los
Angeles we're not going to have schools back open." And children were suffering and and I just I have I have no respect
for them at all they are a horrible entity well what what we're doing funding through taxes at state
organizations i you know you may have I mean I see those as two different animals private and state but or and and
federal and I I don't understand government unions i don't understand how we can put money from everyone's pockets
my mom was a school teacher her whole life and she ended up donating to who knows how many political causes because
of her paycheck i I don't understand that but uh the NEA is a cult it is unbelievable if anybody wants to go look
at it just look at their annual conventions watch their annual conventions on YouTube and you will you
will be horrified at what you see it is unbelievable behavior
now what what is going on currently with the trans issues are we making headway
on this with with boys playing in girls sports boys being in girls locker rooms and bathrooms
yes of course we're making a lot of headway president Trump again signed an executive order i was able to be there at the White House for that to keep boys
out of women's sports so uh but as we just discussed states and local school
districts are defying uh that every day but there's a lot of other things in place so Moms for Liberty we joined uh
Young Americans Foundation and three states Utah being one of them to sue the Biden administration over uh over the
Title 9 rewrite so they took Title Nine which came out uh in the 707 70s I
believe uh and which which allowed for girls sports you know allowed girls to
have their own private spaces locker rooms restrooms that that of that nature in schools and the Biden administration
last year or year before last rewrote Title 9 to go into effect in 2024 to
include gender identity as a protected class which basically means that boys can be in girls bathrooms and girls
sports and girls locker rooms and uh we sued the Biden administration and we won a federal injunction it was remarkable
it's not what we thought the judge would give us but that still stands today that federal injunction and what it says is
that if you are a member of Moms for Liberty the public school that your child goes to is exempt from
implementing the Title N rewrite and so that made our membership grow like crazy across the country of course thank you
so much President Biden for that gift u so you know the fight still goes on it still continues but it is happening and
and getting exposed at every level it is polling at 85% of Americans do not want
boys in girls sports or girls bathrooms or girls locker rooms so it's uh you know the Democrats are holding strong to
that and and defending it and I just absolutely don't know why if they've done any polling on it they know they need to to really back off if they ever
want to win an election again what is what is happening with Planned
Parenthood today where are we at with that because there's a lot of legislation going on there and and and
and a lot of expose that has happened there uh where are we at
uh well I can tell you I can tell you this they've started endorsing schoolboard candidates across the
country pennsylvania has all of their schoolboard races in odd years so this is a year a big year for Pennsylvania
for schoolboard races and Planned Parenthood is coming out left and right with candidates and so I want all of
your viewers to take a second and just ask themselves why in the world does Planned Parenthood care about endorsing
in a schoolboard race and who is sitting on a school board just let that let that set for a second and and and and think
about that yeah yeah again going back to it there is evil in the world you you've
got to realize it there there is evil in the world and it does permeate things to
your home and your family and etc speaking of that do you guys work at all
with like social media uh with and the access that is given to kids through social media
uh we have some bills in some states right now that our chapters we fight at
the most local level and so we don't take issues at the national level and tell our chapters how to support in
their states or at their school districts we support them and what they want to fight for and so I have seen on
quite a few of our legislative agendas across the country uh states so chapters and then states that have decided that
they would like to uh stand with or fight for uh social media guidelines put
in at the state level to protect children yeah because again the access to children is wide open like it's never
been before and it it's not just the teachers and it's not just the administrators it's what are they getting on their phone and and who's
pushing that there are speaking of SEAL SEAL has also uh uh
partnered up with some app companies i've seen this this has been a while since I looked at it maybe six nine
months but it's they've they partnered up with some app companies that that are trying to sell themselves to school
districts so that the kids have the app on their phone and it's all under seal
and uh therapeutic type of of counseling counseling would be the right word with
with schools counseling and and healthcare and so it's like how do you
feel today and how are things going today and and what did someone say that upset you you know perhaps and anyway
all this data is collected in these apps and brought back together so that new programs can be put into place and there
is data backing it up that show how kids are being affected and it's this whole industry that is kind of encircling the
kids you know with the parents on the outside of that circle it it's it's
really scary i mean it's this was this was in Utah also by the way this was in Utah that they were looking at at
bringing in these apps in their counseling and it would have a message for them every day it would have
a new message about how important they are and and etc etc you know to give
them a a a little shot in the arm a little B12 shot of of self-esteem
all I hear is Utah needs a Mom's for Liberty chapter but really um you brought up a
whole another you know a whole another every one of these topics you keep bringing up I feel like we could dig into for hours at a time and the data
mining of our children and if you have an app on your phone right now a social emotional learning app on your child has
that on their phone delete it i don't even know much about them but I can tell you delete it uh imagine that someone
somewhere now has information on how your child is feeling every day imagine how that can be used against your child
as they go apply for jobs or try to go in the military or try to do different things uh when they become 18 and 19
it's not protected if they are if they are putting that kind of information into a system uh that data is being
collected and used and it's being used to target them it's being used to to target them with the message for the next day and if that gets in the wrong
hands imagine how they can target them and what what they can how they can manipulate their minds it's it is delete
it delete it now yeah um finishing up here Tina
can you ask me something happy please i feel like and intense in this whole interview can we talk about anything
okay what what is the outlook what is your outlook on this and what is your hope yes I am very hopeful our future is
bright that is the theme for our summit that we're going to have this fall our future is bright and thank you that is a
great question parents are waking up they are organizing not just with our organization but there's parental rights
organizations across the country and parents are getting involved and and they're upset and they're showing up at their schoolboard meetings they are
voting which is more important than anything we targeted uh in four key states over 200,000 voters that hadn't
really voted in prior years in this last election and we were able to activate 92% of them on our issues only we never
even said vote for a certain candidate we just said get out and vote today because there's a boy in your daughter's
bathroom you know at the school at the end of the street using actual stories of things that were happening in their community parents don't when they learn
they take action and so I just plead with everyone to take action be involved stay civically engaged do your job do
your job with screening what your children are learning we are thankful for our school system i you know went through a public school system my
children did i've got a a junior in high school right now at the same high school I went to uh but we we've got to do your
part you can't just trust that other individuals have their best interests all the time so very hopeful we've got
President Trump in office who is signing executive orders we've got Congress now creating bills to take apart the
Department of Education which we didn't even get to we could talk about that all day long too and how it's a good thing to return education back to the states
and so uh I just you know thank you thank you for having me on i'm so excited about the future of where
education is going in America because it can only go up appreciate yeah it can only go up it's it's gone down since
1979 but uh for a very good reason I think so uh Utah if you are watching
this which I know you are look into Moms for Liberty and see if there's something if you're a go-getter and and and
someone who wants to initiate something and get involved contact Moms for Liberty and see what you guys could get
done there tina yes oh and we have dads that are chapter chairs we probably should have put that in we only have five out of our 340 or whatever but we
do have dads that have stepped up to be moms for liberty chairs and vice chairs treasurers and secretaries and so we
take moms dads aunts uncles grandparents you name it awesome appreciate that well we'll put a link to your website in the
description box thanks Tina so much maybe we can get you back another time thanks it's been a great conversation
appreciate it
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