Political Violence Is Escalating—And We’re All Being Played

The media, the rhetoric, and the dangerous game pushing America toward the edge Violence, radicalization, and the collapse of trust in America’s institutions Why propaganda, not policy, is driving America’s unraveling

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All right. President Trump again seems to have been targeted him and his administration, members of his cabinet that were at the White House
correspondents dinner. Uh, is it surprising? It is not surprising to me at all. I am I I remember the first time when this happened during the campaign.
I I'm trying to remember where that was.
Was it Colorado? But I I turned to my wife and I said, you know, I don't know how he's going to make it. I do not know
how President Trump is going to make it through a full term. This isn't I I look I think it's common sense to say is this
really going to be the last time this happens. I don't think so. I I think it's going to keep happening. I think you're going to get people on the fringe. The propaganda machine that just
keeps going at ad homonym on him to demonize him. And look, I seems there's a lot I don't like about him either. But
to demonize this guy as if he's the devil is preposterous and and and it's it's just going to rile these people up
on the fringe. This guy was a school teacher and and makes a cross-country trip to uh to DC to kill it looks like
based on his manifesto. Uh it looks like the the those members of the uh administration and maybe President Trump
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All right. Trump. Well, another uh apparent assassination attempt to him and perhaps members of his cabinet, his
administration, uh and who knows who who else. Uh we had a policeman shot trying to stop him uh as well protected by his
vest. We did get some more information on the uh the guns that was were being used by uh the asalent.
But I I just want to address first of all the the idea of violence of political violence. It is getting worse
and worse and worse. And yes, most of it is happening on the left. That is where it happens. And you've got people that
are, you know, pushing the boundaries as far as they can in terms of protest. This is what they've been trained to do.
This is a process. Uh you've got them screaming, blowing these whistles.
You've got everything you can do to agitate and to irritate and to cause problems. You've got uh individuals that
are taking and absorbing in the rhetoric about demonizing the opposition.
It's the and we got to understand where the sources are from these things on both sides. Both the left and the right.
Yes, the left has got a bigger problem right now. But that doesn't mean that Fox News doesn't push propaganda on the right. It does. It pushes propaganda.
But there it's it's everything that we have here with these the for individuals and I know a lot of you do this, right?
You're you're watching Fox News all the time. You're watching CNN or MSNBC. Most of you probably Fox News and and you're
going to eventually accept the narrative that they want you to have.
And this is, I believe, is why we so desperately need a third party because you you have it's it's always it's not
just, hey, here's our core principles as what being a conservative or being a Republican or being a liberal, a
progressive, and being a Democrat. It's what is the other side doing? And we're going to go against it and start
propping up all of the reasoning, all of the why we should hammer the individuals that speak about these things. and as
much ad homonym as we can offer uh trying to to take all credibility away from the argument instead of taking a
reasonable look at this. And that's how we work now. And and of course that's the way it's always worked. But it's just it's at such a fever pitch now
with the propaganda and and the demonizing the opposite side. I I have
no problem going in and saying how horrible an idea is.
That's one thing. And and being able to talk from both sides and and and getting down to the nitty-gritty and and saying
why this is a good idea or why this is a bad idea or why we need to change this or why we need to change that. But today there there's very very little of this.
It's almost all propagandaized.
Everybody gets their talking points from whether it's Media Matters or Fox News or whoever else is is is is pushing your propaganda for you.
So, so that you you repeat the same thing. You get the narrative out there to to what? To get reaction
and to muster up emotion, especially on the left, right? And and you can always tell this. Look, I don't think Trump's a great guy.
Uh, I I think that uh I I like some of his policies, but I wish he would change some of them. But to go in and and and
and demonize an individual so far and lie outright lie about things, including
the FBI, including the media, including the previous president,
right? And and make up these conspiracy theories, is is a real problem.
And uh how do we how do we make sure that we are not just building up our own silos that we're just getting we're just preaching to the choir. They're just
preaching to you and you're the choir and you're not critically thinking through these things. You know, looking at immigration, I want to come cover the church and immigration here in a minute.
What what are we looking at here? How about the war in Iran? Is this is it so much just Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel?
and let's really focus in on this is Israel's war or are we really looking at a critical uh um point of view on this
that says hey why why are we doing this I mean here's my example for the Iran the war in Iran
does Iran have the capability or or how were they within striking distance of you know in other words a very short
term of being able to have a nuclear bomb that's that's all that matters to There's nothing else. It has nothing to
do with Israel. It has nothing to do with the way Iran has treated us or what they're calling us or or or or anything
else. Not even the way they treat their own people. Is that important to me? Of course, it's important to me. But war,
and we are in war. This is war. This is not just some executive another whole another topic, right? is
is the ability for a president to go to war without Congress declaring war.
There's way too much power in the presidency right now. Way way too much.
We need a check on that. But looking at Iran, what is the issue? The issue is the nuclear weapon. Now, you might say,
"Well, what about Iraq and the the weapons of mass destruction?" Absolute valid point. Maybe there was a a maybe
there's something like that. I I don't know, but neither do you. It still comes down to that question.
Was Iran building a nuclear weapon? I think it's honestly unimaginable and unimaginable that they're not. And were
they getting really close to finishing it? Because we know the way they're going to act once they have that in place. And and and someone gets really
mad and and Israel could be toast very quickly. Or any other enemy or us. Can they can can their uh their missiles reach the coast of the United States?
It's that to me is the is the only question. That's all. Period. And if they're able to get get that weapon and they're close to doing it, then yes,
everything is is a go for me to go out and go against the regime. And I think we're trying to do that as surgical as possible.
Gaza is another question, right? That's a totally different se separate issue.
But but I think we're trying to do this in a very surgical way. And and I I everything else all of the other talking points rotate around that.
So So if you're saying, "Well, this is Israel's war or or this is we're we're the puppet of an Israel puppet master,"
which I I find preposterous. They're an ally. We certainly work with them. But even if that were true, which it's not,
but even if that were true,
if Iran is about to build a nuclear weapon and and and is is going to be able to launch it, doesn't matter.
Nothing else matters. That's the question. Period. Right. So that's just an example of this. So So why why what else? Orange man bad. Orange man bad.
Orange man bad. Here I am wearing orange, I guess. So I guess I'm orange man. And of course, I get some of that criticism, but it's it's not
look, let's go, let's look at the policy.
Can't we reason about the policy instead of all the conspiracy?
Let's look at what we know and can reason through can reason together on on these things.
I think that becomes a very important thing in in in cutting through all the BS that we are receiving every single
day from all different sides on on this issue. I want to go over this uh what we
have here with the Cole Allen
who is uh the alleged gunman. Well, he is the gunman.
uh alleged assassin, I guess we would say, right? We've got the uh we've got the New York Post here. Cole Allen shotgun pictured for the first time
after alleged White House correspondent dinner. Gunman rushed security checkpoint. You guys have probably all seen that. That was an interesting That was an interesting video clip. I mean,
that guy just took off right through a whole bunch of men that had guns and and
it's scary because you think to yourself, okay, if that's the policy, I mean, they took their guns out.
They took their guns out, but they're mostly in a sense protecting themselves and making sure he's not going to shoot at them, but they're not stopping him.
Now, I'm not saying at that moment maybe that's the best thing to do to shoot him, but it's pretty evident he's got a gun in his hand. He's got a shotgun in his hand in his hands.
So, and and he's heading into where the president and cabinet members are. So, I don't know how that works. I would
really be interested to know what the training is for that exact situation. A man comes blowing through. I I don't remember how many there were, but there
was half a dozen to a dozen men right there, armed,
and he blows right through them. So that when they goes he goes through them,
they have to run chasing him with their guns and he's already off to the races going to his targets.
Shouldn't there be at those security checkpoints other maybe and maybe they had them and they just didn't use them, but shouldn't there be tasers?
Shouldn't there be rubber bullets, guns with rubber bullets to stop that kind of an individual
at at that moment before they can break through that that kind of a barrier. The other thing is is there really wasn't a barrier there. You saw a table that was
put down there or two, but there was an open area to for everybody just to be able to walk through. That was kind of
interesting. Anyway, I mean, I'm playing Monday morning quarterback on all of this. I'm sure they're very well trained. It's just noticing that I
thought that was kind of interesting that he was able to blow through that secure security point. So, he goes through the security point. This is our
man here, Cole Allen, a school teacher in Torrance, California. This is in the Los Angeles area, a school teacher.
Another thing that makes me think about this is what is his school administration and and faculty as the
other teachers there saying to those kids and and man, I sure hope they are. I'm
sure they are, but I'm not really sure if they are saying, you know, if there's any kind of talk about, man, I wish he
would have gotten through. I And I know that's really pessimistic. That's really dark,
but come on. That we we are living in that time right now. We've seen this online with a lot of other people that have said, you know, hey, I wish I wish
he would have gotten through. It's too bad he missed.
Political violence. It's it's it's it's getting worse and worse. This is a picture of his shotgun here. This is a 12 gauge. If you see this here, pump
action. This is uh you've got the the the stock here. The back end of this is something that folds down. So, when he came in and checked into the hotel before, it wasn't full length like this.
He also had a handgun. and he had a a u a 1911 handgun, which is a singleaction
handgun that uh I have I've got a 1911. I don't have the same brand that he had, but you
know who who made that 1911. It was made in 1911. It was called 1911. It's a single action where the barrel it uses a
hammer, but the hair hammer is already back as it shoots. So, as you're pulling the trigger, there's no the hammer's not coming back. it's already back. And uh and then if you've got a double stack,
if you got a double stack, it's they call them, they call it a 2011. But he also had several knives. I mean,
he was he was ready to go. He was ready for destruction. I also want to make a comment on looking at the I don't have
the footage here right now, but when I saw, you know, when you first hear those those gunshots, and it's not really
clear of what that is when you're inside the room there with everybody eating and and on the stage up there and everything. It's But I did not see that
many men actually and people must have not known what was going on. So, I I get it. Once once I saw how the sound was, I
I I take back what I was saying a couple times online where I was like, "What are the men doing? They're not even helping anybody. They're not doing anything.
They're not covering up the women.
They're not, you know, I So, it wasn't mayhem at first. It It just wasn't mayhem. It was what is going on?" I
think people heard it. It did not register that these were gunshots. And there was a an article from the uh uh
from the free press. I can't remember her name, but it's Barry Weiss's sister, I think it was, that was writing this,
talking about how the men actually really acted very with a lot of chivalry, right? They really were protecting everybody and and including
herself and her sister and and so I'm glad to hear that, you know, and that is a natural thing. And and it's uh all of a sudden, where's the toxic masculinity,
right, when when you're trying to protect women? Now, did you guys see the 60-minute interview that Trump did? I just want to cut to a couple of these clips uh and and comment on them.
Mr. President, do you know if you were the target of the gunman?
I don't know. It sounded to me I read a manifesto.
He's radicalized. He was a Christian believer and then he became an anti-Christian.
Okay, so this is a guy that just has had his faith deconstructed.
Uh he became radicalized and uh we don't know for sure based on the manifesto that was emailed shortly before he ran through the barrier there.
Call that a barrier uh in the hotel. So So we don't know that this was directly at him or not. It's hard to imagine it wouldn't be, you know, we don't know
that. Maybe we're going to get more from him as they interrogate him going forward. Took s for them to flank you,
Mr. President. And then s to get you out.
Okay. So, this is this is kind of a question. I mean, that that's a long time, I think. Uh I think again, I'm not criticizing. I don't know enough about
these things. I I'm just wondering why that would take that long. how you have I it seems to me like the way this was
set up because the guy was outside of the room because the gunshots were not understood by those in the room to be
gunshots that people were not positioned in a place that would uh or if they were positioned in a place they didn't know anything was happening,
right? They didn't really know anything that was happening. If this guy is ahead of most everybody else and then everybody else runs in, I I I don't know. It's It is interesting. I mean,
that's .
If there's a guy with a gun in that room, how many rounds is he going to get off at that point? That's that's a little bit concerning to me. And and and
I'm not criticizing them. I don't know the situation. I'm just saying what seems to be apparent that of things that we don't know.
It looked chaotic. At one point, you were down. What was happening?
Well, what happened is uh it was a little bit me. I wanted to see what was happening and I wasn't making it that
easy for him. I wanted to see what was going on.
Okay. So, he's he's attempting to uh he wants to figure it out. So, he it goes beyond the . Another 10
seconds because he's he's trying to figure out what's happening. I I guess I get that. I maybe I don't. Uh that's a
little bit odd. I usually if if you've got secret police guiding you out, you you probably ought to run, right? You
ought to go go with them and get out there. Me personally, I'd be like,
"Okay, where's my wife? Is she Did you take her out? Is she already gone?" All right. Here's the video clip of the guy
running in here again. And and I guess I'm looking at this. I maybe this is not a table over here on the far end. It's just a a barrier of some sort. But how
many people do you count here? I don't know how many security, but I'm seeing one, two, three, at least three here in this hall. There's one area here. You
can see the two guys here in the lower left hand side. They are right there.
Right there. And then you've got the opening between the two guys. These look like policemen. I believe that's what's on their backs there. Police. And then
that barrier area there across from them. And then this guy is going to run right through. You can see the gunman
running through the metal detectors and he fired off one.
Boom. Okay. So, he runs right by the other guy here. Where are the two guys down below here?
21 minutesAgain, I I there's something in his hand. They're protecting themselves. I get it. I think that's the right thing.
I understand. But again, I'm just wondering uh how how does this happen? How does this
happen? How is there not something to stop this guy or even from behind again?
Can is there something you can use to stop this guy? Uh without shooting bullets yet at this time, but I don't
know. I mean, maybe you should be just shooting bullets at this time. If you can, you probably don't really know what he's got in his hand yet, but this is really concerning.
Two rounds. His speed was rather incredible, actually. He was he was like a blur.
How did he get that close with the place swarming with security?
I will Okay, let's see what he has to say on this. How did he get that close?
Say, look, I I say it because I'm a big fan of the people of law enforcement,
and you know, some of these people, they may be crazy, but they're not stupid.
And they figure Yeah. So there, you know, again, this guy's figuring it out. He's been there apparently at the hotel pri prior. He's got everything. He looks at everything.
You might be watching everything being set up and and and then figuring out where am I going to get through? How am I going to get through all of this? Um
I wonder what changes will be made in security because of this event.
Things out. He ran 45 yards they say and he just went to it and then boom, he
popped through it. I mean he ran like I think the NFL should sign him up. He was fast.
When you look at it on tape, it's almost like a blur, right?
But it was amazing cuz as soon as they saw that, you could see them draw their guns. They were so professional, aimed their guns, and then they took them down immediately.
Do you think this will change your relationship with the press?
Well, look, for whatever reason, we disagree on a lot of subjects.
Uh, we talk about crime. I'm very strong on crime. It seems like the press there's one thing that's interesting in the way things have changed I will say
with Trump above all others is that he has you know look we know that for the most part the
machine of the press has mostly been on the left pretty strongly and and so but I'm mostly talking about
Republican presidents who have tried to bridge the gap in these situations and and and they
just you know they're they're handling ling uh the the press with, you know, as if they're walking on glass and and Trump
obviously has said, "No, I'm not doing that. I that is not going to happen. I'm going to say it like it is." Honestly, I appreciate that. I do. I I think that we
the the American public knows a lot more now just how blatantly uh deceitful the press has been.
And it it's it's concerning because you don't want to lose trust in institutions. And right
now we're at an all-time low in all institutions over, you know, broadly speaking across the country. We are losing faith in all of these
institutions because through the internet and transparency, we can find the problems a lot easier. And so we're going through something now that is
going to evolve into something else. I would imagine either good or bad as we try to work our way through all of this
where we can see corporations and government and institutions the fraud we're finding you know all of these
different things that we if we're not careful and I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm just saying we could end up in a position where we just have no confidence in anything that all trust is gone and you cannot operate a society
like that. That is you cannot operate a society like that. But he's going to come out here guns blazing here in a
second uh at uh CBS News here. This isn't uh it's not so much the press,
it's the press plus the Democrats because they're almost one and the same. It's like the craziest thing.
I'm sorry. That's true. I have the strongest border we've ever had in the country. We're, as you know, it it said zero people for 9 months came into our
country through our southern border. We have a very tough border. The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read,
Mr. President. He appears to reference a motive. In it, he writes this quote,
"Aministration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote this. I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile,
rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes. What's your reaction?
Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew Okay, this is where now it's going to turn because he knows what she's doing.
And and and look, if this was if this was Fox News and they happened to get Obama on there, which is going to be a very rare thing, or Biden on there, they
might do the same thing, right? They're they're going to you're going to try and undermine and and characterize and put
it up for discussion, put these things out there. It's just that Trump has uh responded a lot more firmly with these things than than anybody else.
You would because you're you're horrible people. Horrible people. Yeah, he did write that. But I said to myself, you
know, I'll do this interview and they'll probably I read the manifesto. you know,
he's a sick person, but you should be ashamed of yourself reading that because I'm not any of those things, Mr. President. And I was never Excuse me.
Excuse me.
You shouldn't be reading that on . You're a disgrace. But go ahead. Let's finish the interview.
The other thing that he wrote in disgraceful, sir, you have already had two potential.
He was pretty incompetent, too, because he got caught and he got caught pretty easily. So, I'd say he was pretty incompetent, too. You know, I could take
any event having to do with security or anything else. I I can always find fault. Those guys did a good job last night. They did a really good Okay, I'm going to end it right there.
Anyway, just really interesting dynamic.
Really interesting world that we live in right now.
Anyway, just I'm going to end it right there. It's uh very interesting dynamic.
Very interesting world that we live in right now. I I uh things are not going to get any better with the press and this president. I think they're going to
get worse. Uh I think that the press is certainly at least most of the mainstream press is certainly in cahoots
with a a side that is becoming more and more and more progressive.
And I I don't see there being much difference there. On at the same time,
you've got the right which is fracturing right now. And so you're going to have,
you know, different sides of the those factions on the right that are also attacking the president. He's got a he's got his work cut out for him. Uh he he's
going to have um attacks coming from a lot of different angles,
but the violence we've got to lower the rhetoric on this and and the way we're demonizing people. We use the worst
Hitler and, you know, fascist and all of these words that are uh they just they just go too far. They push everything
way way too far. All right, I want to talk about a Salt Lake Tribune article
that came out recently. Uh, this is from Tamara
Chemley. This came out today. It says this, "Latino Latter-day Saints lament church's silence on President Trump's
mass deportation campaign." Okay. Um, I I don't know if that's fully true. It
might be true. um that they're not s they're not saying anything about the the mass deportation.
We've seen the church b be in the middle of this before back in uh what was it 2008 to 20110 time period where they
were they were talking about certain bills in Utah that were going to be passed. The church did not heavily
support uh anti-immigration bills at that time. And in fact, I remember it was the first time I ever saw people
that were active in the church and conservative really complain about the church. That
was the first time I saw that well before the woke madness really manifest itself. But at that time that it was it
was like politics here, church here. And it's not that you can't disagree with the church. Um, but it was again I I
think that there are some things and some nuances that you need to look into with things like immigration and what's happening with immigration. So what is
the role that the church plays with immigration?
This is something they put out by a Mexican convert. Just the way they frame these things, especially at the trip, is
just really insane, right? It's It's uh they're scared of losing Republican members, says a Mexican convert. Okay,
got it. Let's open up here and see what this uh how they open up this article here on immigration. Amid the Trump administration's historic campaign of
mass deportation of immigrants, top Latter-day Saint leaders have largely avoided the topic, last issuing a statement to the general public barely a
week into Donald Trump's second presidency.
um Latino and Latino members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have noticed and then they're going to go into some uh you know
they're going to cherrypick this. I'm not saying that a lot of Latinos don't agree with this, but I've just been very disappointed, says one, by the church in
general, says Victoria Gomez, a 33-year-old Mexican-American from Monterey, California. It's really just out of touch and ivory tower. So, here's the question on something like this.
when politics and the church get mixed in. First of all, again, I went to my mission in Mexico City. I absolutely love these people. Uh I keep in contact
with so many of them on Facebook. Um I I love Mexico. I feel like it's a second home for me. We go there all the time.
And and so I I just want that to be clear and understood. The question is on do you can you can you parse these
things out? Can you look at immigration and say, "Okay, what is going to happen if there is no wall? What is going to
happen if we just let everybody in? In fact, in some cases, invite many people in. Is that smart?" Okay. Then you look
at the other side of the coin and you say, "Okay, well, what about people that have been living here for years and and what do you do with that? I
mean, what about splitting up families that have been here for years?" See, I'm fully against that. It's I'm sorry. I don't care what your policy is. I don't
think I don't care what your purim purest uh inclination might be on on this type of a thing. You you don't split up families. You just don't do it.
It's not worth it. The problem isn't that we have to correct everything from the past and make up for it. The problem
is is that we had really bad leadership have had really bad leadership in allowing the immigration issue to become
so bad. You had you had the left which was always wanting this to come in because they they believe they can get more seats in Congress. They can get
more votes eventually uh more protesters, more support. And then and then on the right you had the Republican
party being run by the country club Republicans and they want cheap labor and so this is great for them and so they didn't push back on it.
Remember McCain and the whole him talking about you know reform,
immigration reform and the way he wanted to do it and was willing to do it was well we're going to we're going to change things inside. we're going to
allow certain things to happen right now and then we're going to get really busy on the border. That's the way they wanted to do it. This is the exact same
thing that happened during Reagan's time where they brought everybody that was here in the United States, gave them gave them I I don't remember if it was
citizenship or residency or whatever it was with the agreement that we were going to take care of the border afterward. And of course, it got
absolutely crazy after that with the border. Nothing happened with the border. It got worse. So these whole all this reform stuff has always been a
joke. And and when that happens, you have to say to yourself, okay, why? Why?
If it's so obvious that there are so many problems, who is it benefiting? You have to ask yourself, who is it benefiting? And why aren't they taking
care of it? This is one of the problems with career politicians because you've got career politicians
that are uh you know in bed with special interest groups and they get wealthy off of it and they get reelected off of it.
And this is a real problem. I I think I think I think the number one thing that has been on Trump's agenda since he ran
in 2016, the most important thing of all was uh term limits.
If you want to clean up the fraud, if you want to clean up what's going on in in Washington, this is something that can put a pretty big dent into the fraud
and into the problems in Washington is term limits. And I know like if you're a Scousin reader and he says, "No, then you're going to get rid of somebody
who's really good and you want them there." I don't care. The problem has become so bad, it is so mastized at this
point that you you can't you you you need to limit this. It is it is a a can of worms that is being opened.
And and you see these guys come in and into the Senate into into Congress. They come in, they're worth, you know,
$700,000 and and and they walk out 18 years later and they're worth 30 $30 million, $50 million, $100 million.
This is and this isn't a problem. This isn't just a party problem on one side.
This is a problem on both sides. Both sides are seeking their own power. Both sides are seeking to be reelected. Both
sides are seeking alliances. And and and it's it's it's removing the importance of the vote.
Because the money flows from those areas, the money flows from those organizations. The money flows from those packs. The money flows from those
businesses that are being affected by by the politics and and that influences the votes.
So, the best way to get rid of that is to is to is to put term limits in place,
right? All right. Okay. Back to immigration here. Um, another one here,
Su Su Suhe, I'm not sure how to say her name. In Spanish, it looks like Suhe Vega, author of the new book Mormon
Bario, Latino Belonging in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Okay,
I've looked at this. It's all social justice. Of course, she's an ASU professor. It's a social justice. Uh,
it's all about whiteness in the church. Um, but of course, that's who they're going to put in here. I mean, that tells you right there where the bias is coming from.
What the church has said on immigration. Okay, this is what I want to cover here. When it comes to immigration,
Latter-day Saint leaders have returned repeatedly to the same two points. A nation has the right to secure its borders and policies ought to be humane
while keeping families together. I I fully believe with that and I think humane means that you are not breaking up families and you're not doing it in a
harmful way. Now, if you're going after felons, which was the priority for this administration,
look, I mean, I especially violent felons, I have zero problem with going after him and getting him out.
Zero. Even if it's part of breaking up a family, if you are a violent felon and we've allowed you into this country and that's what you've done while you're in
this country, sorry, you're out. You need you need to be out. And and I don't think that's wrong. Okay. So that's
that's I believe again parsing it out. I think that that is the right position that the church has taken in the in that case. They seem to have leaned more
toward pro-immigration honestly that that that they've gone with uh in terms of larger amounts of
immigration coming through. That's my perception. That's all I'm saying. That is my perception. The church's 2011 manifesto, this was coming in after off
that 2008 to 2010 period, says the bedrock moral issue is how we treat each other as children of God. Okay? Again,
and that's how we have to handle it.
Now, saying that from from too far of an empathetic point of view might mean tolerance for all things.
We're all children of God. Therefore,
you know, you you came across the border illegally 6 months ago. You should stay here. You know, I probably don't agree with that.
That's that's not what that means. There there has to be rule of law.
You've got to have a border. You've got to have rule of law, but you've got to try and treat people humanely. And you can't rip families apart. And you and you've got to look at those situations.
And I know there's millions of people that are kind of in the crosshairs here of this administration. and and that
makes it very difficult. But I I I think you've got to look at these things in a very nuanced way. How do we
fight for the rule of law? I mean, the church believes in supporting the law,
right? I I think we need to support the law and and but having allowed these politicians
to open up our border and we've done that. we've allowed it.
It's ultimately our choice. We've allowed it. Uh then then you know the question is okay, what do we have to do
going forward? I think that's the right way to approach this.
Here's what they had said in a uh press release that they put out in 2018. This is the church quoting here. They have
built lives. This is those that are dreamers that have been here for a longer time. They have built lives,
pursued educational opportunities, and been employed for years based on the policies that were in place. These
individuals have demonstrated a capacity to serve and contribute positively in our society, and we believe they should be granted the opportunity to continue to do so. I agree with that. If they've
been here a long time, if they've built put roots down, it's not the problem.
And and it's and we're talking dreamers here. These are the kids of of illegal immigrants, right? That's that is not cool. Sorry.
That is not cool to do to them.
And the again, the problem is what happened in the first place. And you don't go back and say, "Well, we're going to take everybody out from years ago, including the kids."
I I I that doesn't make any sense to me at all. Most of the rest of this article focuses on Vega, the author, and and the
professor at ASU on on this. and and and again, I mean, they're they're taking a someone that has a very radical point of view on just about anything to do with
social justice and and making that the the crux and the message of this article
here. Uh not surprising, right? That that certainly is not surprising.
Anyway, Trump and immigration, we're following these things. We'll continue to follow this. It's I am leaving for a couple of weeks. I'm heading to Turkey,
41 minutesGreece, and Egypt. So, not many daily programs will be coming out here with with Quick Show today over the next couple of weeks, but I will keep you in
the loop on what's happening in those different countries as I go there. Give you some pictures and some videos of some of the amazing places that we're going to be visiting. Thanks for listening.