Lindsay Clancy, The Gospel, and Untethered Empathy

Lindsay Clancy support is destroys the Hero narrative and our culture. The Lone Juror What exactly does the psychosis mean in a premeditated murder of our own kids?

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Kora, 5 years old. Dawson, three years old. Callen 8 months old.
I say those names first because they are the forgotten victims in this Clancy case. It's disturbing. We don't talk
about them. We don't talk about enough about what she did, what Lindsey Clancy did.
We are often, many of us are moving our empathy over to Lindseay Clancy and not just moving it over to her, but
lifting her up on a pedestal as an almost hero, a folk hero for mental
illness awareness or for women's rights or whatever it is. This is an upside down society
with with a very difficult schizophrenic values hierarchy that is very concerning.
It's not just the verdict. That is one thing to talk about and I'll bring that up a little bit here and talk about what I think about the verdict or the
non-verdict in the mistrial. But secondarily, it is the response. It is the wild crazy bat crud
responses for her when
there are victims, little innocent victims of this heinous crime. Not to
mention the husband, the father, and what has happened with him and and what was taken from him because a woman
strangled three little kids in her basement.
Premeditated, planned out, meticulous in her planning, uh very aware of what she's doing.
And and this this this sympathy, this empathy that is put out for her, the
2 minuteshearts being put up in the air is is just bizarre to me. This is not the hero's journey. This is not a hero.
This is not a folk hero that should be lifted up. This is not the journey, the the hero's journey. This is not Joseph
Campbell. This is this is bizarre. And we're in a position now where
the schizophrenic reaction of the fringes and the contagion that is going on. There's just another woman
that just killed her 2-year-old. She's obsessed with the the Lindsey Clansancy case, obsessed with it, and she goes and she kills her 2-year-old.
Uh what are we going to do with that? Is she also someone who has been too depressed and and has to go out and kill her little baby, her little child?
What kind of a precedent does that set?
And we're all a part of this society, right? We're all a part of the society. And that's why this is so important.
It's not just about the verdict. That is at one level, but an even higher level is who are we as a society and what do
we accept? What do we tolerate? What kind of justice do we look for? Because there is a justice, an objective
justice. There is a moral problem here that goes beyond even the law. The ability to get out of a v a guilty
verdict because of reasons of insanity is one thing, a legal a legal thing, but it's there is a moral issue here. Who pays the price for this?
And what does it say about us as a society if if we're going to tolerate it? and allow this and especially if we
are going to hold her up. They are holding her up on a pedestal in the name of mental illness, in the
name of empathy, in the name of women's rights. For some of them, it it's
very very concerning to me. Kora Dawson and Ken, that's who we should be talking about first. So today we've got a
deadlock jury, right? A mistrial, not on whether she did it, right? She admits she did it. They deadlocked on whether
she answers for it, whether she is guilty for it or not. Outside the court courthouse, hundreds of women in pink have been treating her like a folk hero.
It's one thing to sit there in your house and to say, "Well, maybe she really was crazy. Maybe she really was
depressed. And that could be I still for me I still don't think that she gets off. If that was a man, do you think for
a second that this guy would be getting off because he was depressed?
Not Not going to happen. And I'm not saying a man goes through postpartum depression, but there are mental illnesses out there where a a guy has
5 minutesbeen psychotic, diagnosed as psychotic, goes out and murders his little kids,
and then with very little deliberation, the jury gives him the death penalty.
Right? That that is another issue of of kind of almost like a two different justice systems. one for men and one for women. It's very different.
And we have more sympathy and empathy for women and and I think that's natural. I do think that's a natural thing.
Uh they're more vulnerable.
But justice is justice and and this is a real indictment I think on society if
uh if this ends up being a non-guilty verdict through a second trial which I think is what's going to happen. There's
a slight possibility, I suppose, that they could go for double jeopardy in trying to say that
the one man who was holding out did not follow the law, so to speak, did not go along with the understanding of
reasonable doubt. But thank freaking goodness for him. Thank goodness for that guy. I saw a tweet uh by Lauren
Chen that I thought was fantastic. And basically it said this is kind of how western society is right now.
There are nine women that are letting their emotions run.
There are two beta males who are pushovers and then there's one man that is holding out. So before I continue,
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2023? I just want to go through a few things here and then we're going to get back to the untethered empathy and what's going on society with this. But
on that morning in Dubbury, Massachusetts, a pediatric there was a pediatrician visit with Kora, right? So
Lindsay Clansancy had a pediatrician visit with Kora. She builds a snowman with the kids, texts photos to mom and
her husband. Patrick later tells police it was one of her best days.
At 4:50 p.m., she texts Patrick suggesting takeout, says she didn't cook anything, and it's been a long day.
Patrick orders, comes upstairs, rocks Kalen, kisses Ka, says I'll be right back. And she's standing by the basement
door holding the baby. He's gone about , goes to CVS to the pharmacy, and then he grabs some food.
She strangles all three in the basement with exercise resistant bands. She then cuts her wrists and neck and jumps from
a second story window. He turns He returns to a silent house, a locked bedroom, blood. Finds her in the snow.
Says she says, "I tried to kill myself." He asks where the kids are. the basement. She says she does not say that they're hurt.
The officer testimony says that Patrick was screaming. She killed the effing kids.
Cora and Dawson both die that night. Ken dies three days later. She's paralyzed and has spent three years at the
Tukesbury State Hospital. Never a day in a jail cell. Okay. So, let's look at this, right? The premeditation
She timed the errand. Prosecutor Jennifer Sprag planning. She says planning started at 400 p.m. with a map
search for how long the restaurant roundtrip would take that night specifically. Then she found the window too short and extended it. She added the
CV the uh the window of time. She added the CVS stop. Sprag said she's adding to
this errand and she has to make sure he's not in she's not interrupted. The prosecutor said she called CVS first to
confirm confirm the medicine was in her stock so the errand wouldn't fail and send him home early. So the pharmacy run
wasn't a mother remembering her kids needed medicine, right? It was padding onto a clock a time so that she could uh execute her plan, execute her kids.
The prosecution psychiatrist, Dr.
Gregory Sathoff, testified the voice she described only told her to kill, never how. Every operational decision was
hers, including bringing the children to the basement one by one.
She had control over the sequence of what she was doing throughout, said the doctor.
How long was this? Sprag argued the bands weren't knotted, so she held them tight for minutes per child.
Rosenfeld estimated four to five minutes each, roughly total between the three.
The phone call, this is the sharpest disputed fact in the case. Patrick testified she called
him back while he was inside CVS, understood why he was there, and calmly approved a generic substitute for whatever it was that they were ordering.
The prosecution says that that call happened after she strangled them.
Clancy says the psychosis came on after the call.
Very odd, right? The psychosis comes in after the call and she killed them afterward. The jury never resolved it.
So again, very sketchy fact here on on the phone call and when this happens,
uh, very suspect, very, very sus suspect.
The crushed pills that she had in the lemonade were her own overdose.
Seaith noted that Patrick didn't think they had lemonade in the house, that it would mask the bitterness, and that crushing pills is laborious. The point
still lands this way, that it was deliberate, it was sequential, and there was effort that was put into this. Now,
again, I want you to step back and think about this.
She is thinking step by step what she is going to do and how she's going to plan this. She might be really depressed.
She might be a little out of her mind.
But she is planning step by step her decisions, her agency on what she is going to do with this
entire plan as she commits this heinous, horrific crime.
13 minutesNow, what was the diagnosis on her?
Right? Doctors that were treating her did not diagnose psychosis. She had several doctors. None of them diagnosed psychosis. One suggested a mood disorder
and underlying bipolar, but said she did not appear to have postpartum psychosis.
Wouldn't this be an easy thing to to recognize to some degree?
It's there. She's saying it's not postpartum psychosis. Again, maybe it is. Maybe it is. And and I don't think that's the only argument.
The argument is did she have her mind in terms of a guilty verdict.
The postpartum psychosis and bipolar diagnosis arrived after the killings from forensic experts hired for court.
So we should keep that in mind. Also, none of her doctors diagnosed that.
14 minutesThe prosecution's Dr. Mack said that major depressive episode, no mania, no psychosis happened. Uh, Santh said she knew right from wrong on January 24th.
So, [clears throat] you know, again, take that for what it's worth on either side.
My point is not even just saying, can you say she was completely psychotic?
The point is is does she have a mind? Is she making her own choices or is something else making choices for her?
This is all planned out. And I think that's what we need to look at. I I I everybody starts focusing in with this
whole incident about well, is there psychosis in place?
take away the diagnosis for a minute, one way or the other, and look at the facts step by step by step on what she did and and how she planned this out.
And the defense saying that she all of a sudden had psychosis come in after that phone call.
That that's pretty weak. She had already gone in and planned this, making sure that her husband was gone for a certain
period of time. Right now, let's look at the mistrial here. On the jury, you've got nine women and three men,
over uh of of of going through this for seven days. There were 85 witnesses,
and deadlock had been reported three times. Right? Then we find out about the one juror. The one juror is holding out.
Did you guys see this part where the judge came out? It was the most bizarre thing I think I've seen in a
strangest thing I've seen since I saw OJ try to put on his glove. Well, he just doesn't really fit.
Um he he almost seemed like he was advocating.
He's not just describing it. The way he's talking is, "Get it straight, buddy. Get it straight.
Get the verdict out there with the other 11 so we can go home." Is the way it seemed like to me. Kind kind of bizarre, right?
So, they're trying to look at the verdict. Uh, the juror's note has it down or the fourth person's note has it written down is they has made
statements. This is the the lone juror has made statements acknowledging doubt but refuses to apply it to the verdict
as the law states is that who's arguing that who's really
arguing that position as the law states they have doubts about this. In other words, what do they have
doubts about? Well, again, is the is is Lindsay planning this whole thing out?
Does she really have a mind to to make decisions on this?
Thank goodness for him. Can you imagine being in that position knowing how big of a deal this is nationally and worldwide and he's the lone dude standing up on this?
Kudos to him. Fantastic.
The hold out was a man. The defense claimed that 11 to one should be an acquitt. It could have been. There was
an emergency appeal to the state's high court to stop the mistrial that was rejected. Readington, the defense
attorney, says to reporters later, "11 jurors were robbed by one man." Is that how it works? Can 10 jurors be robbed by
two men or two women? How about nine and three?
Or is it just 11 and one when it's robbed?
There's a a requirement for a unanimous verdict for a reason. He says that he holds that the hold out can sleep well
at night. You've got a defense lawyer publicly attacking a juror for refusing to acquit. Just sit with that for a
minute. So, what happens now? Well, we wait till September 29th when the next hearing comes in. We'll see what happens. I I'm very interested to see what the defense attorney is going to
bring up because he may try to go for double jeopardy. There's a chance of that. How does that happen? Well, you could say the one hold out uh did not
follow the law, did not follow instructions, and and there, you know, I saw Dersowitz on on TV. He said that that's what he
would do. He would go out and try and first try and get a double jeopardy. He says, "I don't know if they'll get it, but he'd try to go out and say this
Lindsay cannot be tried again for murder." So again, that's one level of all of this. Is she guilty? Like is
there a verdict of guilty? To me, there's no question that she is guilty.
There's no question that this woman is guilty with what she did. And why is it that I I I I mean, if I had done something like this because I was really
19 minutesdepressed or I was even psychotic and I came to myself, is she psychotic now? Or was it only a period of time? Because if
she psychotic now and she came to herself and she realized what she had done, I wouldn't want to live. I wouldn't want to be here. Take me from
the earth, please. I I I I would not want I would not want to be here for anything. So, what happens outside here?
You've got uh on August 20th, you've got about 400 people, mostly women, that are told to wear pink. And the organizers
message for these women outside is it shouldn't take a tragedy to make people care about mental health.
That's what they're bringing up here.
Forget the three kids. Forget the three kids. What's the point? They don't matter anything. It It's mental health,
you know? Let's let's put Lindsay up for mental health awareness month and put her put her poster up somewhere and create a statue for her so that she
could represent this folk hero for for mental illness.
The rally and the people outside were running on two false premises, two falsehoods. One that she was turned away
repeatedly, which is false. She was given help from every angle possible, right? And that she told providers she
wanted to harm her children. Right? She told her mother and her husband that she had brought this up. There was a law
professor that wrote for the free press saying that Massachusetts is kind of an outlier here. Right? The state must disprove insanity beyond a reasonable
doubt. Any doubt means a quiddle. And he cites FBI figures of roughly 500 philide
arrests a year to America in America. All right. Both men and women in about equal numbers. And they can't all be insane.
How many of them are insane? And I want to bring up another note on this because there's a trend out there with those that are supporting
Lindsey Clansancy because there's a faction of those that are kind again, it's kind of this idea of liberation of consequences that are trying to say the
husband did it. There's more evidence on the husband than there is on Lindsay despite the fact that she admits it.
It it's it's bizarre, right? It it's really bizarre because you have this idea of
well, you know, there's so many women that are watching these dramas, these crime dramas, and they have got a way to figure it out. That's actually not the
way it really looks. A AAM's razor does not apply as it is applying less and less in our society to so many different things.
But saying that he did it in this case and having so many people say that tells you a part of the mentality of the entire
group which is liberation, right? It's liberation from these consequences. It's a liberation from these problems and
it's a support for Lindsay that is bizarre again trying to hold her up as some type of a folk hero.
Let's look at some other cases that have happened. Look at Timothy Ray Jones Jr.
from South Carolina. In 2014, he killed his five children, ages 1 to eight. He
strangled the two oldest with his own hands, used a belt on the two youngest.
He said that he heard voices telling him they'd be better off in heaven. He pleaded not guilty by reason of
insanity. He presented schizophrenia and psychosis and family history of mental illness. The jury took six hours over
two days to convict on all five accounts. And once they convicted him, it took him another two hours to
sentence him to death. And there are many, many other examples this way, especially with men who are diagnosed
already with bipolar disease or schizophrenia or some form of psychosis that are given the death penalty.
And again, I think that if this was a man, I don't think there's any question that that would be what is happening here. Taking your own kids down to the basement and strangling them with
exercise bands, right? And instead, again, you get this empathy presented by money, right? You've got a Tik Tok
creator in Wisconsin that launched a GoFundMe account on August 14th, had a goal of 500,000, has raised over $850,000.
One anonymous donor gave $10,000 on that GoFundMe account. Stop and think about the evil. I'm sorry. It's evil.
The evil to support her. This is a contagion.
It is like a virus, a social virus, emotional uh ideological that passes through people.
Justice for Lindseay Clancy. Stand with Lindsay. I am Lindsey Clancy. Are you?
Are you Lindsey Clancy? You murdered your own little kids in your basement.
People are claiming I am Lindsey Clancy.
Where is the fund for Patrick Clancy? He lost all three children in one night at the hands of a person that he trusted most.
He publicly forgave her. He divorced her and remarried. And for that, the internet decided he was the real killer.
Compassion for a sick woman is right and good normally.
But it's not placed above the compassion and empathy for the husband that lost her his kids.
That that guy lost his three children to his wife.
And it's not to be placed above the empathy for those three kids and the justice that should be required by
society for those three little kids. This is an upside down world. There is a bizarre
new path for the hero's journey in our society. It's taken a bad bad turn.
Luigi Manion, right? You got merch.
You've got fan edits, defense funds, a murdered father of two, and and he's barely mentioned. You've got Carmelo
Anthony, the Frisco track meeting stabbing of Austin Metaf, right?
Enormous fundraising for him. Instant folk narrative, who's convicted of murder and his parents are speaking out as the appeals continue. Lindsey Clancy.
I am Lindsey Clancy. pink shirts and a million dollars. And this journey is is
it's like let's find a perpetrator who can be read as a symbol and the actual
victims become just dressing for the incident.
It it it's we are in a sense sacrificing little kids and others
to create these symbols. We are we are I hate to say it. We are we are learning
to feel. We feel more about you know what's going on than than we do judge.
We are a a society that is moved to emotions as our guide and not truth. And therefore we have untethered empathy
because when you take feelings and you untether them from any truth, you're going to create evil. So again, Kora
Dawson and Kalen, whatever happens coming up on September 29th, whatever Tim Cruz decides, three
children carried to a basement one at a time by the person who was supposed to keep them safe
murdered them. And if we can't look at that directly cleanly, then it's not that we have a mental health problem. We have a moral problem.
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