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all right welcome to Quick show my name is Greg Matson and I am your host in this episode we bring on Rob Goa from
watching the Watchers Rob welcome to the show Greg it's great to be here thanks for having me on I have looked online
several times all over on political uh coverage I don't think there's anybody
working harder than you on this stuff well that's a nice compliment I appreciate that we are spending a lot of
time on the documents we're covering it pretty in detail I know there was a big flurry of excitement when it first
happened obviously there was a lot of eyeballs and attention on it but then I think the real juicy stuff comes after the fact because that's when the
investigations start to turn stuff up and we get to start to compare and contrast the new statements with the
prior statements and we're seeing a lot of that and that's really where you start to tease out where the problems
are and see where the cover up is occurring and get some truth so we're staying on it we know a lot of senators
are digging in on it Chuck Grassley Ron Johnson so we're following them intently there's a bunch of Investigations that
are opening up as well so I think we're going to learn a lot and I'm hopeful that we learn more of the truth I know a
couple of senators are digging into it but there is a big effort to cover this up and just move Beyond it yeah there's
no question there's some type of a cover up uh you know it may not be fully conspiracy theory land but it is
definitely a cya type of a thing without a doubt uh what I'd like to do is kind
of break this up during the day and what's going on during the day starting with a morning meeting at 9:00 a.m. right there's a morning meeting that's
being held it's supposed to be between local local law enforcement and Secret Service I believe secret service does
not show up right do we know why they didn't show up well I don't know much
why they did much of anything that day there was a lot of finger pointing that happened after the fact and I think that
there there's conflicting timelines so one of the best timelines that I've seen here is from Ron Johnson and the problem
with this is that we don't have a I think a real crystal timeline from the secret service that we can compare and
contrast these with so we've got the media that is reporting dates and times and and stuff how how stuff happened we
have the local cops who are giving us details about what happened and when and then we have the Secret Service that are giving us details about what happened
and when and there we're starting to now see the discrepancies between the stories and so
Ron Johnson was one senator who put together a a compendium of a lot of this
stuff and in his timeline he walks us through through a bunch of stuff that
happened even the I think the day before and the day of and I don't I'm I'm looking at it right now I don't see
anything I don't I don't know that we have a definitive explanation from the Secret Service as to why they did not
show up I think that their excuse would be that it was not needed or that they had they had already communicated about
what the plan was and so it just wasn't a NE a necessity as far as I know did this cause any issues though with their
absence at this meeting did this cause any issues with the radio communication for example where there would have been
perhaps some you know coroporation on how are we going to communicate with on what channels are we going to be on Etc
so that was supposed to be remedied by having two people in the command center
a unified Command Center that would bring together the local forces and the Secret Service forces they do have
different radios and there was a lot of communication and and testimony about that in front of Congress and elsewhere
about why these miscommunications happened but the solution to this had already been remedied basically and the
local cops explain that the reason they they do this is to solve communication problems but the way it works is there's
one person from the local cops in the command center there's one person from the Secret Service in the command center
because their radios are not directly inter you know interpers they can't
combin their systems they just communicate verbally so the theory is that as soon as local cops know
something is aai they're all spreading it around on their radios but that person in real time is in the same
literal same building in the same Command Center as the Secret Service so the local cop just communicates that to the Secret Service it's as though
they're on the same radio with maybe you know a second delay to process those things and the Secret Service hears what
they're saying and communicates it back to their Circle and we communicate in that manner
so I I I don't know if that morning meeting if attendance at that morning meeting would have changed that dynamic
in any way but it was seems like a solution that had already been in place that they were going to have one person
at least one person in the command center so that they could communicate in liaison that way yeah that's going to bring up a couple questions later on
then uh would this have anything to do with who's covering the roof at all is that already designated that's already
set the secret servic has already set their their parameter very tight perimeter uh did the meeting have
anything to do with this so we're flying a little bit blind on that I I have seen a copy because we don't have the secret
Services ultimate response to a lot of this there still in the middle of a pending investigation the FBI is in the
middle of their investigation what we've seen from the local police and they have
released a full uh actual PowerPoint presentation of basically the security
details the security plan and if you look at it there are different buildings that
are marked and they have different zones that are marked off and so there's very curiously on some of these the actual
AGR building is not marked off in the zones it's like took an aerial photograph and they just started carving
it up right you zoom out on a Google map you just say Okay Secret Service you're over here local cops you're here we're
putting the the uh medical team over here entryways this way they just carve it all up one building that is not
carved out of that is the AGR building and you know the question is I guess why that occurred in the local
police security plan in their detail that they were presumably reviewing that day they do show that there were two
counter snipers that were local counter snipers in one end of the building so the shooter was on this other end and
there were supposedly uh two snipers that were stationed in that second room or or on in that building now there is
some discrepancies about whether they were on the second floor or the first floor and whether one left their station
or both left their station but the Secret Service came back out and was basically saying that they were in
charge of that building now they reversed themselves on this as well so this is the Secret Service is kind of
blaming the cops and then walking that back so the Secret Service I think can point to
the local cops and say well there were snipers in the building because there were snipers in the building and the local cops have now confirmed that but
the local cops have responded and and they're forcefully defending themselves and I'm glad that they're doing this but
they're saying that their perspective from their assignments simply did not cover the roof because if you look at
the the construction of the building their rifles and their viewpoints should
be set inward from the window like they're not hanging their head out the window and having a big 180° let's say
range of motion or range of view they can only see just a very narrow window and they're they're looking where people
are coming in to the rally they're not actually supposed to be kind of in an OverWatch
position scouring a big range it's just a narrow focus on on a very narrow area so so so
those that are inside the building they rob they're they're they're not even focused on the building itself there's
no focus on there there's no focus on the building itself other than perhaps I
don't know the snipers that are on the other building they seem to already be pointing in that general direction right
yeah and that's the theory is that these guys from their from their take the local cops are saying that our job was
only to watch basically the entry okay we're SE we're seated in the in the windows we're watching people come through the front so if there's a
problem there that's what we're covering and it's not our job to be monitoring the rooftops everywhere else because
that's what the other snipers are there for and that's where the Secret Service is there now and we saw that we even saw that in most of the footage where those
other two snipers look like they were looking directly at where the shooter was and from our perspective it was hard
to tell and there's some reports that there was a tree in the way which is why maybe they couldn't see him so clearly and he one of the snipers you know if
you watch that in super slow motion the counter snipers he you know kind of raises his head up resets and then gets
back down to fire down range and again we don't even think that he was that that that team was the one who took the
shot because maybe they couldn't see it but it was another sniper team that was on the opposite roof so the Secret
Service though blame the local cops okay Ronald row who testified very recently
Kimberly cheel resigned and we can you know dig into all of that but he testified and he blamed those local
snipers he actually printed out these poster boards and brought them in all these colored poster boards and said
look at what they could see but if if you look at the poster boards that he dragged in front of Congress this is the new Secret Service acting director mhm
it's like they stuck the phone out the window to take the picture and he and he said there during testimony he said why
didn't they just look left blaming these counter snipers like why didn't they just look over there they could have
seen him they could have done something about it but that was not their perspective at all okay quick so the counter snipers because I did see on
there on their backs they've got SWAT on the backs of their of their uniforms are those local enforcement those two
snipers that are on the other roof on on the other roof so behind
Trump so Trump was in the center stage there was one building directly behind him and then there were on either side
so if Trump's here mhm and the and the crowd is down here there were two snip there were two I think barns up here one
counter sniper on each team uh counter Secret Service sniper teams on each Barn
the other snipers that were the local counter snipers were in the building
where the shooter was yeah so so he was on the roof of their building one of the snipers apparently saw the guy took a
picture of him sent it back down to command so as the shooter was crawling
around the exterior of the building a local sniper takes a picture of this guy apparently they'd already identified him
as having a rangefinder already was suspicious there there were multiple identification moments before Trump ever
took the stage that they should have intervened in here but they didn't so so real quick so the snipers that are on
each of the barns those are Secret Service snipers that's what we believe yes okay so if those are Secret Service snipers they're the ones that have the
direct side of the roof of the shooter correct so how can they be blaming local law enforcement if those
snipers are set up specifically to cover that roof yeah it's a great question and
I think the local police and the local law enforcement are asking themselves the same things because they didn't have
that perspective and so they released their own images of what they saw and it was very narrow and they're they're like
we we were not assigned to cover that roof our job was to look directly at the entry we presumed as just as you
suggested Greg that the other snipers would have that roof covered it clearly wasn't covered so now it's the finger
pointing game now the local cops are BL the Secret Service are blaming the local cops and they're not responsible so there were there were two statements
that were made earlier on from director Cheeto one was the slope was too Steep and I didn't want anybody to get hurt
okay number one why does she care about how steep the slope is is she an oversight over the law enforcement if
they're the ones that are in charge of the building and why why is she the one telling the local enforcement law
enforcement how whether or not it's safe and and whether they should be on the building or not number two what was
stated was that the local law enforcement said it was too hot so they went down and went inside the building
yeah and I think both of those are just part of a weak coverup attempt to try to
get yeah misinformation to change the narrative out there before the truth really takes hold it's
simple excuses it's like the dog ate my homework everybody was mocking that we also saw I mean I think representative
Garcia I think is his name from Texas guy's like 70 something years old he W walked up there was you know doing
cartwheels on the roof practically and it was I think just to try to diminish
attention off of the Secret Service I thought it was a pretty boneheaded PR move I mean everybody responded
immediately that that was asinine but they didn't want to accept responsibility so it's almost like this
kneejerk reaction it's this this they can't help themselves oh the grp was sloped or it was too hot and the local
cops are pushing back on that as well we would have been on the roof if it was hot right we're not children or something like this like
we're we're we're trained professional counter sniper teams we know what we're doing and it's it's basically insulting
but they had no other explanation at the time so they're just trying to kick it back to someone else yeah so a couple of
other points here that are happening before and I don't know if I know all the information that's happening beforehand but apart from the meeting at
9:00 a.m. I think that there was another communication that actually came from the parents uh somewhere where where did
that communication go to and what did they say the parents I don't know if they communicated during the event or
prior to the event I could be wrong about that I don't I I don't recall seeing that timeline like I don't see or
haven't seen evidence I could be missing it about the parents like warning the cops or something like that I haven't seen that come into the official
timelines yet okay so beforehand though there are local witnesses that are there
we've you many of us have already seen the camera footage of the phone footage of of of they see Crooks Up on the Roof
yeah say hey that guy's got a gun they're telling local law enforcement I believe it's local law enforcement that they're talking to one of the local law
enforcement guys actually gets up on the ladder goes up sees him CCS turns and points his gun at him yep he comes back
down how early is that compared to where when the shots are fired from Crooks to
Trump and where did the communication go if you've got a a command center is that
radio from that guy going to the guy in the command center is it getting relayed to the to the Secret Service yeah such a
great question and I were I was waiting we were waiting to see what this timeline looked like and it's it seems
like it's very very close very very close in time between when the officer
he actually was I think pulling himself up somebody else was boosting him up onto the roof and then fell off the roof
hurt himself radioed it in and it's basically simultaneous like as that's happening the shooters resetting and
firing shots down range basically within the within the minute very very close in time because I was asking the same
question that you were asking if the guy falls off the roof the local cop falls off the roof and knows that there is a
gun there like that at that moment we now know there's someone on the roof shouldn't be there that's one has a gun
shouldn't be there and is adverse to law enforcement because he just pointed it at some law enforcement's head not
supposed to happen right so it's like unequivocal 100% a threat something
should have been done I would say at that moment so how much time elaps between that realization and the the
shots very very quick and that's where Ron Johnson's timeline really I think is
instructive because it closes that gap for us now that being said I don't think
that that's necessary in order to show that there was catastrophic failure or even
intentional failure I think that was just the final moment of an impending catastrophe
but you know a competent Secret Service or law enforcement that was actually doing their job that was actually
properly uh armed up and resourced in order to address this would have caught this many times before I mean the guy
came in with a rangefinder they had him on their eyes for 90 minutes before the shots were fired and they lost him okay
so local cops and Secret Service apparently both lost the guy but for 90 minutes they knew he was concerning they
had already identified way before suspicious yeah suspicious right didn't
see him with a gun early but they saw him with a rangefinder and then one of the Secret Service I'm sorry one of the
local snipers I think there were three guys in a building one guy had to leave at four because they were short staffed
Secret Service was short staffed they called they were leaning on the local cops to bring their teams out out local cops were short staffed and one of the
local snipers left at 4 as he was leaving he walks out the front door of that AGR building and he sees Thomas
Crooks the shooter seated there on a bench and he says hey this guy just watched me come out with my gear my my
rifle and my weapons and text the other snipers about it right at that moment
and that was I think 90 minutes before they brought Trump out so that's number one they saw him with a rangefinder
number two they then took a photo of him you know kind of uh mulling around
outside of the building one of the local cops took that picture sent it out to the rest of the team it's about an hour
before the shots are taken yeah and that continues to transpire apparent
you know what happens between then and the shots I think still kind of messy
but he is lost he climbs back on the roof gets set up points his gun at the
local cop falls off the roof and then shots are fired so a possibility the Secret Service does knows about this guy
they definitely know about him the local law enforcement know about him but they don't know where he is yeah and and and
then whether or not we know about that law enforcement communication where he got up on the roof came fell back down
we don't know exactly when that happened yet um there may not have been any communication of hey this guy's on the
roof and he's got a direct line of sight yeah it's a good question we don't
know so we don't know what the secret SEC service knows because they don't have any of their recorded
Communications they've already confirmed that to us that everything is gone they didn't preserve any of that so
reconstructing a timeline from their perspective they didn't preserve any of it no no audio
recordings at all were recorded in other words they were wiped they they didn't say that they
were wiped but they were saying that they didn't they do not have them so I don't know if the in you know Congress
it's so frustrating when they bring these people in to testify I'm like can you please ask 50 questions about that one question about did you not ever
record them were they were they recorded and then deleted is this a 24-hour deletion rule or were they all off who
made that decision but no there's no audio there's no recordings they weren't wearing body cameras so there no one can
trace back ultimately what happened and they've told us that cheel said there
were no recordings and Rose said that there were no recordings so we're relying on a Recon instuction of the
what the local cops said and how it happened from their perspective and the media reports otherwise the Secret
Service is just this black box and this is not new for them okay they've done this many times they already did this after January 6 we have like one text
message from the entire aftermath of January 6 and so you should if you're the Secret Service and you had a an
archival problem after January 6 maybe you should start archiving stuff maybe this stuff is important because Congress
wants to have access to these records and they didn't it's it's just you know gone it's it's a
black maybe that's why it's not there because it's important it's right exactly right because they don't want you to see what happened there yeah so
here's another question then Rob you've got you know I you've seen the footage I've seen the footage you've got those
two snipers right next to each other one's got a stand one's freestanding there it's you do see that you hear the shot
you see the sniper kind of Step Up come back down get his sights on and boom right um they seem to have a direct line
of sight to the roof yeah why why do they not see him there's two of them
it's on that Barn there's two of them why do they not have a direct line of sight to the roof or or at least if
they've got I I should say it this way you said there might be a tree there but they've got a direct line of sight to the roof why do they not see him because
the slope as you know is what is it 9% it's not like he's down below this
this barrier right where you can't see him very well it is almost flat right
and and and so it it would be impossible for them not to be able to see him
pretty clearly it seems to me yeah I tend to agree I think there were two
there so even if you had that tree excuse would say okay well there's a tree there they couldn't see that one
half of the building that's a security failure okay somebody should have eyes on the building otherwise whoever did
the planning failed to prepare appropriately that's your failure but the other team I don't know where they
were looking and they might have been short teams too I mean there's also there's conversations about them being short staffed because they moved Senator
Chuck Grassley came out with a letter and he was saying that I think Joe Biden that same day was speaking to I think
300 Italians somewhere you know and somewhere and she had 11 post standers
that were there assigned from the Secret Service a whistleblower reached out to Chuck grassley's office and Trump only
had three according to these documents that were forwarded to him so they may have just been
short staffed you know underprepared uh intentionally deficient something like that but once they heard the shots I
mean he was they they sided him up pretty quick I took him out with one shot so they somebody could see him very
clearly they just weren't maybe looking that direction maybe thinking that someone else had it covered or maybe the other team had it covered but
regardless I think they were on notice for a very long time especially around that building right someone sent them a
picture of guy crawling around outside of the building so there should have been eyes on that building there should
have been we lost a suspect we've lost somebody keep eyes on this area until we
reacquire him so it's it's very curious how they were just you know I was joking
about it on our show about they're ordering door Dash or whatever playing their you know video games on their
phone or something to to allow it to happen but they got eyes on it quickly they had noticed that there was a
problem over there and they still weren't looking well the other thing is is notifying president Trump I mean did
they notify him of this was he going to go on at 6 and he waited another five
minutes and then he overrode them and said no I'm just going or you know was there any communication to him or his
team about this suspicious individual that they were looking for because it seems to me like why would you put
somebody out in the open like that yes when you've got someone who you know they've got a rangefinder I that's and
and you've known about them for an hour and a half yep right and multiple people have flagged
him and Trump has said specifically that he
would have waited he did an interview after this he says I would have waited five minutes could he didn't know no
there was no reports that he said I'm overriding you or anything like that he says they keep me waiting all the time it's weather it's other stuff that
happens it's no problem and it wasn't that long right it's 5 minutes 6 minutes and he could have easily waited the one
officer was already climbing up on the roof they could have just waited another two minutes I probably would have had the guy but they didn't and the question
is why now what about part of the team that's that's covering this if they've got a diversion of of resources that
have gone over to Jill Biden and their short staff they're using then uh Homeland Security right uh HSI
individuals yeah um are they pulling them in were they in as part of the whole team did they understand a week in
advance or a day in advance even of what this looked like what was going on on
what are the what are the precautions we need to be focused on what are the weaknesses of the perimeter anything else that these guys focus on would they
have been briefed or had the time to really know what was going on and and what they ought to be looking for yeah
it's a great question there's a lot of I think complications in this area about
resources and Staffing and how that all worked and the Secret Service has been very not forthcoming about who was
responsible for these things and Ronald Row the new acting director he came out and he testified in front of Congress
nobody's even on leave nobody's even been fired there's everybody's just kind of carrying on as normal and they think
I guess they think they did a a a great job but the the review he says is still ongoing and they
haven't given us names or details about who is is involved in what but the general story is right these
whistleblowers are coming out so Josh Holly is another Senator who's gotten some good contact from other people who
are saying that Ronald R this new acting director himself was responsible for
pulling back on the resources for the Trump campaign and and the Trump team in other words Trump one example of this is
why did they not use a drone on the site in Butler apparently it was on at least somebody's inventory list saying that we
were going to have a drone operator on the menu right they they say okay we're going to need two snipers we're going to need two post staffers we're going to
need one drone operator one comms guy whatever so they had them on the itinerary to be there then they didn't
have a drone the the shooter flew a drone drone around but our own secret service didn't fly a drone around the
local cops offered them a drone but they still didn't do that and others like I think Dan Bonino said that he was
hearing from others who were saying that the Secret Service snipers were only allowed to go to rallies and things like
that if it was within driving distance of DC and there were some other you know kind of internal regulations that maybe
you're not codified anywhere but this that just tend to minimize the security
for Trump and in favor of other people and there was there was another story I
think that the the person who actually did the planning in the preparation of this event was also just a total you
know kind of b-level person who is not qualified to do this stuff and it's that
kind of pattern that we see over and over again but they don't want to they don't want to give us a lot of details on it even Senator Holly was digging in
with Ronald row he says I know who that was like I know who did that so we're going to find this out I know why these
decisions were made so you can be forthcoming now but they're you know they're circling the wagons trying to
protect their people you know speaking about qualifications as as you look at the team and you watch what's going on
as they cover them up and then they move them over to the uh what was the name of the uh the SUV they called it I can't
remember but uh uh the second SUV that they were they were going to use and they move them over there and they get
them in and then you've got and it has nothing to do with whether these women are you know whether they're women or female or whatever else but there's
three women that are outside the SUV that look like they are deers caught in
the headlights I mean again will you talk about why are these individuals they
obviously do not have the training on this because it's not that they're women they are not trained to do exactly this
it is very very obvious and yet these are the people are that are on the uh
the team here to protect president Trump right right are
these DH chess individuals do we know or the department of security yeah I don't
know specifically about those individuals but I did see there were some interesting pins and stuff on them
that people were saying they were not Secret Service that they might have been HSI which is a division of Homeland Security and that would not be strange
at all because Homeland Security investigations is everywhere they were all over January 6 they're all over this
and they're like mayorcas and homelands little little police force in a way that
evades a lot of scrutiny because everybody focuses on the FBI it's a wild thing and I don't know why Congress
hasn't caught on to this little scam yet but it's always the FBI they're dragging the FBI in here what do your agents know
and and this one has been about the Secret Service and the FBI nobody's asking about HSI and who these people
are but because the FBI is only focused on Crooks right I mean they're looking at the crime they're they're focused on the investigation of crooks yeah right
they're not going to investigate the Secret Service for any criminality or for any intentional negligence or any
any negligence at all they're just going to just say nope we're just making sure that he's a nice lone actor nobody else
was involved in his encrypted chats that he was having with Lord knows who no social media presence other than maybe
some posts on gab you know it's a very strange thing but they're just feeling like the cleanup crew they're not going
to investigate anybody who is responsible for any of this stuff at the Secret Service yeah
uh we had uh director Cheeto resign which she should have done have there
been any other firings since then anybody else lost their job no not one as far as we know and Ronald row was the
person who came in and testified about that and he says that you know the investigation's ongoing he's not going
to release any names he's standing by their people which is I think standard
for the government I mean we ask ourselves about what are the
repercussions what are the who's going to be held accountable for this and when the government is responsible for the
wrongdoing it's very difficult to get them to be held responsible for it and so we just ask
ourselves practically I mean who's going to who's going to investigate anything in the Secret Service the secret service
is going to have to investigate themselves and they'll do that they find they'll find they did nothing wrong
we'll have an office of An Inspector General maybe from Homeland do an investigation he's not going to you know
fire anybody or make any recommendations Congress is not going to pull money from them in any way in fact they'll probably give them more money so if they just
batten down the hatches I think cheel was a nice scapegoat she made it very
easy I've never seen anything quite like that where James comr and Jamie Rasin
one Republican one Democrat who absolutely I I mean on TV it looks like
they hate each other I don't know behind closed doors but these two guys never agree on anything and I think it is personal but they both signed a document
agreeing that cheel needs to go cheel goes Congress now has a scapegoat so now
they can just point their finger over to her and say oh we got our pound of Flesh we've got you know our person is now
done and the rest of the investigation can kind of just limp on and they'll find I'm sure stuff that is going to
make their institution not look nearly as bad as it is where where does that investigation go from here are there
going to be continued hearings how long do they go for what do you think that there's a specific goal for Congress and trying to
get specific information because it seems like mostly in these hearings what they're really trying to do
is is get the information out to the public right it's like okay these are online we see everybody sees these
things we get the clips uh on YouTube Etc what what what are do they have any
other specific objective and what can they actually accomplish accomplish in a hearing it's not a court of law yeah
it's a good question and I think people are trying to figure that out right now so there's a couple things that are happening right now the Democrats are
obviously in charge of the Senate so they have not formulated any Senate task
force or anything like that that's that's investigating this but a couple of Republican Senators on the important
committees are looking into it and they've demanded the Democrats control the a lot of the committies so they're
not going to be I think looking too hard at this since it's their people it's their secret service it's their Homeland
Security it's their attorney general right now so I don't think that they're interested in really getting any answers
I think that they satisfied that che's gone they keep defaulting to this is political violence and Trump's a
political violently person so I think they're pretty much satisfied with this being done and over and concluded um and
that's that now the House of Representatives is a lot more animated they have created a task force so we're
calling it the j13 task force the the j13 committee which is the real committee because this was of course an
attack on an American presidential candidate so it's the real j13 committee and it was created by Speaker Johnson
and I believe I think I have the actual numbers but yeah 13 members are going to
be on this committee so it's going to be like almost like a January 6 committee with a lot less Fanfare and a lot less
propaganda behind it and a lot lot less media enthusiasm where Liz Cheney is doing her little Hollywood Productions
once a week every week for two months frying our brain cells so it's going to be I think the same thing is 13 members
we've got seven Republicans who are going to be on it and six Democrats are going to be on it and you know the
makeup of the body I don't I you know I don't know that I have a strong opinion on it for the Republicans the only people I really
recognize that stand out would be Kay Higgins he's from Louisiana he's on there he was really good on some of the January 6 stuff he was talking about you
know the FBI HSI vans that were transporting people to the capital and stuff like that so he digs into stuff
and Laurel Lee from Florida she's also on there she's she's pretty good she seems like she's a fighter wants to get you know some truth Democrats we've got
Jared moscowitz he's also from Florida you know him and they're going to be on there looking to I guess get to the
bottom of it so they have they do have subpoena power which will be very interesting so they can sense aenas just
like Liz Cheney did and demand answers from people but we're demanding answers
from the government right and the government always just covers it up so what Liz Cheney and Benny Thompson were
doing is they were sending letters to like you know Steve Bannon who's not in the government anymore or Peter Navaro
who's not in the government anymore like private citizens and then when they they
don't comply with a fake subpoena which is what Liz Cheney subpoena was because
j6 committee was unconstitutional just very quickly HR 503 created the January
6 select committee it said that there needed to be a certain number of members on there I believe it was 13 eight Republicans five I'm sorry five
Republicans eight Democrats they didn't do that so they only had seven Democrats and two Republicans and they just just
fixed the entire committee so it's entirely unlawful but I digress on that every time I can but this that is not
happening here we now have seven and six for the total of 13 and I'm hopeful
we'll have some hearings I'm hopeful we'll have some good evidence I'm hopeful that we'll get some use of the subpoena power but unlike Liz Cheney
this is going you know most of these subpoenas will be going to government to the secret surface into Homeland and so
they'll just say it's you know a national security secret or an ongoing investigation or sources and methods and
I have a feeling that congressed documents very redacted documents ETA exactly and then Congress
will come out and say oh we understand right just like Mike Johnson did when when they were
trying to renew fisa oh we we understand Secret Service is very important and we'll see if we get anything out of it
but at least they're going to have a committee I also I have some criticisms over it because it feels like they're gobbling this up from some other very
active people like there's a representative Eli crane whose ex you know Navy SEAL military Jason borne
badass guy and he is digging into it and now this is going to kind of take that
away from him you know it's going to kind of say this is this is the house investigation you guys can't do what you need to do this is ours now so we'll see
where it goes yeah one of the reasons I wanted to cover this it's not just the the event itself it is the cover up it
it is you know we're in the US right now we have and in the West we have lost so
much faith in the institutions all of the institutions right it's it's it's government it's education it's law it's
uh uh a big business you know it just goes on and on and on because there's always these coverups and it seems to
always be against the will of the people right and here is just another coverup that just when you watch these hearings
Rob it's like they they don't give inform any information right right they they uh uh
they stall on everything who knows when they send these documents back to these congressmen that are asking for them I
mean they may never get them I don't know right it's uh it's just constant and when it's just right on display and
you watch it and you think this is my government right nothing's being accomplished here it's all cya
everywhere yeah you know and uh this just adds fuel to the fire on this idea
of of why trust your representatives why why trust the government when when when they're acting like this you're not
going to get any answers right and they actually get mad at people asking questions they say how
dare you criticize us the Secret Service and the doj they come out Merck Garland they call us dangerous for questioning
what they're doing and that's Our obligation as Citizens is to question them so it is I think a very strange
merry-go round that we're on and I don't think it's going to stop anytime soon as you were saying they're destroying the institutions I think that they're doing
this intentionally so that they can recreate them in their own image and Trump has been a big Catalyst on this
right they have half the country that is so petrified of trump that they're now enabling criminal prosecutions of
presidential candidates during an an American election it's third world banana stuff but they're so animated and
so I think far removed from the old American constitutional ideals that
they're willing to break this they're willing to break glass in case of emercy they were trying to throw him off the ballot in multiple states in the middle
of an election and they were very close to doing that very close they did it in two states until the Supreme Court had
to step in and correct the record on that and so we're going to continue to face this I think
that it is I think Awakening A lot of people to the truth about our institutions when
they will say that they're they're pursuing Justice and then clearly create
double standards we see that Trump had his residence rated by the FBI we saw
criminal prosecutions for fake fraud charges in New York Fanny Willis was
grifting you know hundreds of thousands of dollars off the Georgia taxpayers just to weaponize the justice system and
so the justice system I think is on the ropes and when that's on the ropes if
you don't have a justice system that's functional the rest of society slowly starts to diminish and evaporate around
it and the Secret Service and the doj and the FBI they have a history of this and I think that at this moment we're
kind of at that at that Tipping Point the reasons our institutions have power is because
the people find them to be credible and legitimate if we do not think that they're credible and legitimate they
lose power and the only way that they can maintain control is by then becoming dictatorial and totalitarian and so I
think we're at that kind of that Tipping Point where they're recognizing that their credibility is now evaporating and
so they're going all in they're burning the ships they're just going to seize power no matter what they'll prosecute
their political opponents they'll throw them off the ballots they'll raid their houses take pictures of their wives and
Sons bedrooms even though that that prosecutor was illegal Jack Smith is not
even lawfully appointed right it's a fake prosecutor Prosecuting fake charges raiding a president in this country and
then when all this stuff doesn't work to to take away their political opponent
things escalate suddenly Trump gets shot in the head and my question is right the
Secret Service and the DHS and FBI all these agencies have had a an actual
Vendetta against Trump for ages why is this not the Natural Evolution of that
and I think you know hopefully the American people are watching this unfold and they're going to be very animated
about it in November well whe whether or not there is something nefarious from the inside an inside job on all of this
to to act the way that they have knowing that everybody has an assumption that oh
wow now they're going after him really going after him yeah you you would think they would feel the responsibility to be
to offer Clarity to everyone and make sure they understand that if this is not
the case that hey there we we did fail on this and not only did we fail but
here here's where we failed here's what happened here was the breakdown and be very very clear on everything and they
haven't and and here's who needs to be fired right here here's who needs to go
and we take responsibility and we're not going to let this happen again I haven't even heard somebody say that we're not
gonna let this happen again and here's why here's what we're gonna do to change right they have to change yeah they have
to change that's the problem I think they're just trying to chalk this up as a mistake as something that just got by them and I'm really hopeful that
Congress doesn't allow that to happen I mean I would like to look back there was a there was a considerable change I
don't know if you saw this but Trump got shot right I think 3 days later he comes out at the RNC and his team as you
mentioned was suddenly very very different right there's all these like 6' five Mega Bros out there surrounding
him at the RNC like no one's getting by right and so so something shifted in the agency but my question is not just about
the j13 assassination attempt it's about all of those other events how underprepared
were all of these other events so that something like this could just happen right maybe it wasn't even on this one
but there was just this slow watering down of the security so that something like this could be enabled over over
years right all all you need is one it's just one of those things just create an environment you just need one and so
they did it and I think you know Congress will probably try to not do that not try to
question the entire entity or the entire the entire structure but Congress
is very ineffective largely I mean they they could defund these agencies they
actually have power they don't need to just sit around and send letters all day whining about stuff and bringing truth
to the public I love that I love that we get to see some of this stuff but just defund these people just take their
money away and they'll comply they'll show up there and they'll come respond but you know it's interesting a number
of these guys are and women are are attorneys you know you think they have some
some uh you know uh understanding of of how to apply pressure and and you know
what are the consequences here and how do I battle this uh but I I don't know I mean I know
it's not a court of law but there are certain principles that I would think would apply here that you understand
what questioning is and how to get get an answer from somebody you you'd think that Congress
would have an interest in this I mean it's it's a it's a separation of powers issue right
Congress is kind of ineffective and emasculated in many ways unless it throws its elbows around a little bit
and if the executive branch can just thumb thumb their noses at Congress and we're not going to give you those letters we're not going to show up we're
whatever like um I think they subpoena Merck Garland right and he says I'm not coming over there and they're not even
going to prosecute him or hold him in contempt so he can snu like the executive branch snubs their noses at
Congress in this Administration all the time and Congress just sits there and takes it it's yeah the executive branch
is a problem that's actually an episode I'm doing next week it's it's the the power the policies the regulations that
are put in place by the executive branch and all its departments far outweigh
what Congress does in law and yet there are penalties and fines assigned to a
number of these executive branch policies and regulations you know title N9 as an example it it's
it's all over the it might as it is it acts like law yep right it's got all the
characteristics of law consequences Etc that that go along with that's another discussion I want to get real quick back
to the well before I get to the shooter I have one more question for you on on the actual uh on on the assassination
attempt the when you watch the video the first shot looks like it's the first
shot that actually hits Trump in the ear yeah right he turns his head just slightly gets the ear instead of the the
head there are two more quick shots afterward where he is still standing
yeah right he drops right after the third shot he drops down um I I I I
wonder why because he didn't really move much I wonder why he didn't get hit do we know where those second and third
shots went well I think yeah right I mean right behind him I think were those two and I don't
know if one of the whether to hit anybody or not but I noticed the same thing yeah I
think we're still trying to trace the trajectory of all the bullets and I don't know if it was the first volley of
three or the second volley of five that actually hit people but I do I do recall what you're
saying that Trump and on that end that would be the FBI right the FBI is going to be be investigating that portion of
it especially yes I would imagine they are they're going to consider him to be uh Crooks to be the criminal and the
other people to be the victims and so they do a a reconstruction to see where those all ended up and I think there
there was another there was another round that ended up in I think one of the hydraulic cranes and and hit that
and that also sounded like a gunshot but it was actually just one of the hydraulic lines bursting is that is that
what causes the the water to come out the pressure I think that was a bullet yeah oh that was a bullet that hit that
thing I think it was a bullet yeah I remember that the camera turning I on One camera view that turned toward that
hydraulic whatever it was and then all this water is just spraying out yeah I'm
pretty sure that was a bullet is what people were saying yeah okay uh all right finishing up here with the shooter
now we've already talked about all these security lapses with with secret service and local law enforcement but how does
this kid accomplish this I mean this guy's I call him a kid he's what is he 20 I believe he's 20 yeah 20 years old
he's walking into I don't know how many thousands of people are there how much security is there he walks in with a an
AR-15 style rifle yeah gets on a roof uh eludes security for an hour and
a half apparently yep and then uh uh hits the president with a bullet I know
I know I know when when you have an entire secret service operation there to stop it it seems like it's it's like
it's insane almost it's almost too easy how did that happen but you're exactly right he's 20 very weird stuff with him
and the family right some people have tried to talk to the family ently his parents are both counselors I've seen a
bunch of different uh conversations with people alleging to be classmates and things like that but to be perfectly
honest with you I have not found them credible what the what the other you so-called students are talking about
they just seem like they're just kind of talking not really saying a lot just kind of talking like you know some kid might want to if you're in front of a
camera but we don't know much about him there there is reports that he had conversations on encrypted apps the FBI
has said that clearly they have found some social media profiles I heard I think it was director Ray FBI director
Ray saying that he had something like 700 social media posts but we haven't seen most of those there is one uh
online platform called gab which Andrew torba runs and he
released uh an actual letter that came I believe it was from the FBI an emergency
disclosure request saying can you please give us access to this person's account because we think it was Crooks basically
and so they found I think nine different posts that seemed like that they were
leaning Democrat he was kind of criticizing people who are challenging Biden's immigration policy and stuff
like that but aside from that nobody really knows much about the guy he's 20 you'd think somebody who's highly
politically active or motivated enough to go try to shoot a political candidate would have some other things to say
about this on an online profile or something somewhere and that other people would or to someone or someone
right somebody would come out and tell us a little bit more about this but it is very strange that he was able to
evade multiple snipers for 90 minutes and get on the roof I mean people were
screaming that he was on the roof for at least a minute people you know as he was running across the rooftop people
screaming up there you you know there's there's a there's also an account and I think it's in the video I try remember
if it's in the video here there there is a woman I believe that yells right before the shot he's got a gun yeah so
this is someone within the the cam whoever's holding the camera within
their range or somewhere in the audience yes saying he's got a gun someone spots
him on the roof right before he shoots right right people are screaming people
are screaming he's on the roof it's 60 seconds uh of them just pointing and
he's just kind of getting set up or or so so it's very very curious and I know
a lot of people just want to blame this all on incompetence or a mistake or an accident and I think you could probably
put this all on a big Spectrum you know on the one hand if you ask was this
intentional right there's different versions of intentionality and did the Secret Service like organize this and
text Crooks come out here and shoot the pr no I don't think that happened I don't think that they were orchestrating the whole thing on the one side but on
the other side I also don't think this is was just like an accident where we had a a magical incompetence Fair just
kind of strike a bunch of things one after another so that we ultimately resulted in this terrible catastrophe I
think that the truth is it's probably something in the middle there and the Secret Service is going to try to run far to this end of the spectrum to say
it was just an accident it was an oversite it was miscommunication nobody's responsible for anything nobody's getting fired at all whereas if
you looked at the secret services like any other company or entity that has
caused harm or caused death or caused gross negligence there's damages for
that right people get sued for criminal or for negligence and there are damages to pay out when people die due to some
sort of infrastructure failure and because it's the government though the government protects themselves right
they've got qualified immunity the government really doesn't owe anybody a duty of care individually so cops right
don't owe you a duty to protect you to stop being shot in the head Cory compor so it's it's a position where I think
think there's clearly some negligence I would say that it's intentional negligence they wanted
to create an environment where something like this could happen and lo and behold it did and so I hope Congress will
ultimately stay on this to push it from that end of the spectrum this direction
because I think that there were there's a bunch of people in the Secret Service who do not like Trump do not same with
the FBI same with Homeland Security and the Secret Service has already been in a pattern of covering up a lot of other
evidence not only the j6 stuff where they covered up the text messages and the communications on that day which
we'd all love to hear but they also remember covered up the cocaine at the White House we saw that that was there
and there was new reporting that cheel and row and others were trying to
suppress DNA evidence they had a partial DNA hit on the owner of that cocaine and
they never investigated that further they tried to get rid of the cocaine too they did they tried to to shred it to
delete it right to cover up evidence again so you have to forgive us for not giving them the benefit of the doubt and
just saying oh you got bumped by incompetence this time it feels like you you would have been you would have been
okay with a different outcome here unfortun over and over again it's the trust and of course this follows on the heels of the whole
anti-semitic rallies on campuses and the presidents of those Ivy League schools just same thing stonewalling congress
not giving answers it's it's the same type of thing so anyway Robert Goa over at watching the
Watchers has got 400,000 subscribers on YouTube and Beyond uh Rob where do we
send people to find out more about you yeah just throw our name in the YouTubes or on the Googles wherever it is you
like to browse just type in Robert Goa we should pop right up we're on YouTube at Rob Goa Esq we're on X at Rob Goa Esq
we're on locals at watchingthe watchers. locals.com we have a great Community we live stream five days a week and we talk
a lot about this stuff because it's important yeah and if this is important anyone in the audience go find him check
it out he he digs in deeper than anybody else I know so it's great stuff Rob thanks so much for your time thanks Greg
great to be here with you today all right [Music]
