The Pentagon Just Changed Its Mind About Mormons - No More Christian Category

The Pentagon's Decision Triggered a Firestorm Mike Lee, Trump, Glenn Beck—and a Fight Over Christianity Why Latter-day Saints Must Defend Their Place in Christianity Why "Christian" Matters More Than Many Latter-day Saints Realize

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So the DoD the department of war changes its list of approved faiths with their
chapency by removing the category of Christian. There are so many elements in
this that uh need to be discussed but we did it. We did it. Now I know many of you are not in that battle and and I want to talk to you about that. This is
mostly about Latter-day Saints that I'm talking to, not to the Christians of the world who were happy that we were not
included in the Christian category with the DoD. But this is mostly for Latter-day Saints because there's been so many different
replies from different approaches about this subject. And to bring you up to speed, last week, and I believe we were
the first on YouTube to report this, the DoD came out with a list of approved faiths for their chapency.
And we were on it, right? We were on it.
But there were several other religions in in there that were Christian and labeled as Christian. And we were the
only faith in there that was not included in that category.
And and some of you are happy about that. And I want to talk to you about that. This is not something this is not land we can seed. We cannot we cannot
give this up. It is too crucial. It's too important for our church and for us as members of the church. I want to I
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All right. So, last week I reported that the church had been excluded from the Christian category from the DoD and the and the approved faith for chapency.
They had gone through whittleled down a list that was well over 200. They they brought it down to I believe it's it's 21 different faiths that are in there.
There were good reasons to do this. But what they had done is they started a new category. It doesn't look like this had ever existed before. And that new
category was Christian. And so they had all these these faiths listed as Christian. I want to show you this if you haven't seen it before. Here is the
list. You've got agnostic, bahigh, Buddhism. And then you get it this category with this dash. Okay, you've got this dash in here. And so you've got
you've got the Assemblies of God, the Baptist, the bre the brethren, uh, Catholic, Church of Christ. There's Christ listed in there. Church of God,
the Nazarene, Episcopals, Advent, they've got the Jehovah's Witnesses in here as Christian, which I have no
problem with, but certain group of Christians do have a real problem with that, just like they do with us. So you've got all of these
denominations that have the category of Christian in here. And then you get down the next one after the se 7th day advent
is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
And there's no Christian before it. And and there's so many different replies that are given on this. And I want to cover this because we cannot give this up. We can't do it.
It is not what the church wants. It is not what you should want. Uh, make your own decision, fine. Have your own
opinion, fine. But let me explain why this is so crucial here. It it's interesting that they changed this
because there was there was such a backlash from the Latter-day Saints uh and and you know, Mike Lee had gone
in and spoken uh to Trump on this and and put this out publicly and spoken to the Department of War and uh Glenn Beck,
I've got a clip on this I want you to see, had gone in and actually got a call from the president on this and in making the change to removing the Christian
categorization, not adding Christian to the Church of Jesus. Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which has its own consequences
that I I foresee that I'm concerned about. But I I want to go over the replies and the reactions on on what had
happened with this and and give you an idea of why I think we have to say yes, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints is Christian and why members of the church should say yes, I am Christian. You can put an asterisk on that.
That's fine. But but I think it's really important that we're able to do this because there are so many people in the world that don't believe that we believe
in Jesus Christ and and it's all over the place. I can show you comments everywhere from this that show that they don't believe that
we're we believe in Jesus Christ. I mean at all. And and that's unacceptable.
That is completely unacceptable. This isn't about you and how you feel about uh not being a part of the group, right?
I don't want to be a part of the group either to some degree in some ways. In other ways, I want to work with the other Christians, but I don't need to
feel like I'm part of the group. That has nothing to do with it. That is your own feeling. That has nothing to do with thinking out here about what is
important for the church and and what is important probably for your future as well. I would suggest you don't want to
be deategorized from Christianity. That that's a that's a really bad take. I'm sorry. It's a bad take. It's a bad idea.
But let's look at this here. You've got uh Mike Lee in here that you can see you've got everything listed here as
Christian. You've got the church not being in here. And by the way, we're the only one, right? We're the only Christian affiliated
denomination that that are not listed in here. They had gone through and this is the next thing. Let me just cover this real quick. You understand, right, that they decided to create a category.
It didn't used to be there beforehand.
They decided to create a category of Christian.
And they decided, right, a person or a group decided that they were going to say Christian in front of Assemblies of
God. They're going to say Christian in front of the Baptist.
They're going to say Christian in front of brethren. They're Christian in front of Catholic. And so on and so on and so on. These are decisions.
And then when it gets down to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, they're saying, "No, we're not going to put Christian in front of this." And a
lot of people have said, "Well," and I've seen some friends that are nonldds that say, "But Greg, maybe it's just too long." No, it's not too long. I've gone
through and I've seen the characters that are placed in these lists previously.
And I say characters, I mean I mean a space, a letter, etc. a number, whatever you might put in there, a dash, and I've counted them.
And putting Christian in front of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints with a dash does is shorter than other
other uh denominations or or whatever they are. I think this had to do actually with the DoD that was on
this list, but it had more characters than what we would have. The the length is not the issue. They might come out after this change and say it was because
it's a good way to excuse it, but that is not the issue.
Someone decided not to put Christian in front of the church. Period. You might agree with that and you might not. Fine.
But it is not because it's too long.
It's not because it's too long. That is that's preposterous.
you're going to change a a a a listing of Christian,
right? And take a look at this. You can see that this list is all alphabetical, right? A B C E J L M N O P Q R S.
So they put they decided which ones were in the category, put them into an order, and then put us in separately.
Right. So that that's not what this is.
This is this is not this is not a matter of characters. They have other denominations previously that have more
characters than what our full name in of of the church listed is. Right? So don't
look at that that way. That is wrong. It is it is wrong. Period. It's they have longer names in the list previously.
It's not an issue of a program will only let you fill in so many letters in that field. They've already had more characters in that field. Bad excuse.
Bad excuse. Now, some of the replies from Latter-day Saints have to do with, "Well, I don't care. I'm not a credle Christian." No, you're not a credto
Christian. That's a really important distinction, and we want to keep that.
But so many Latter-day Saints think that, oh, we're just trying to be a part of the club. And some people probably are. I I don't think it's who you think
it is, but there are a lot that just kind of want to be part I think if you're more progressive, you're probably going to want to be more a part of the
crowd over here. That's that's just a natural thing for that mentality to go
with. It's and I and I stand by that. By the way, however, most Latter-day Saints
don't care about being a part of the club.
that that's not what they're looking for. They don't need to be a part of the club. So, when I've seen this reply
several times on the video that I did by church members, Latter-day Saints, that say, "Oh, you just want to be a part of the why do you want to be a part of the
club so badly, Greg?" And and and comments that say, "I don't want to be a part of the club."
Look, I get it. Okay, fine. you're you're not necessarily a part of the club, but you are Christian. And I want
you to think about that comment. I don't want to be a part of the club. Or here's another one that was very common in the responses to this on mine and other videos is is nobody tells me who I am.
That doesn't why do we care, Greg, what the government tells us what we are.
You better care. I'm sorry, but you better care about that because you're being unclassified as Christian and you
have no idea where that is going to lead. No idea where that's going to lead. You're you're moved outside of that area officially by the government.
The government has no right to do that.
Number one, they have no right to do that.
They're they're they're not the determiner of of your category and and and of your
faith of whether or not your faith is Christian or is not Christian.
Secondly, you don't know where that's going to lead. You don't know under know what what kind of precedent that's going to set and what kind of policies are
going to be put in place for for Christians. What if there were what if there's an onslaught of of of Christian
violence? Think about Michigan. What if there's an onslaught of Christian violence? Uh and when I'm saying Christian violence, I mean violence
against Christians in the US. And there are a number of attacks at chapels and and mass protest and and aggravators
uh instigators of of whatever you want to call it in front of chapels and and there's trespassing going on and there's
violence going on and maybe there's there's death like in Michigan. And the government has taken this precedent from
what's listed here and created a larger a larger policy uh two or three or four
times before this this violence begins to happen and it's and it's let's say it's widespread. Let's say it start
starts to happen in in in a dozen different cities and areas uh within a couple of months and there's a policy
that's put in place for for security and protection and something put into law and they say, "Well, we're only going to
protect those that are Christian." And maybe there was another attack on a Latter-day Saint chapel or individual based on the on some type of hatred and opposition.
But but you know the church of Jesus Christ is not part of that Christian framework. So despite having the
the belief in Christ, despite attacks, you're not part of the program here.
You're not part of the category that would that would fit in this. And that's that's that's an extreme example. I get it. But it's certainly possible.
And we've seen these things before. We have seen these things before.
And and if there's any church in the United States, any church in the United States that has seen persecution the
most, maybe the Jews, but certainly any Christian church
that has seen the most amount of abuse and the most amount of attacks, the most amount of violence, the most amount of
of prejudice and bias and bigotry, religious bigotry. It is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You don't want to be deategorized from this.
And the church doesn't want this. And I'm going to cover that. They do not want that either. It is it is not right. It is not even what Christianity means.
So to you Latter-day Saints that want to say, "I I don't want to be a part of the club." Fine. Or you're not trying to be
a part of the club. That's that's not the point. It it's the category. It's an understanding of our belief. And and two, nobody tells me who I am. You need
to think larger. You just do. You You've got to think larger on this. And the strategies and and and an understanding.
And even for missionary work, someone is out saying, "You know what? I I've read the Bible once before and and and I I I
have this feel that I I I need to look into Christ more." But but see, if the perception becomes
more and more and more accepted because there's no check on it by us that we're not a Christian religion,
then they're not even going to check out the church. Oh, they're not even Christian. I I've heard this many times before. They're they're not even Christian.
And so unless we have a check on it, then then that's a real issue. That's a real problem for us and for the church and for bringing the restored gospel to individuals.
So think a little a little bigger. Think about what this really means and and and what the implications may be down the
road for accepting this. I for one will not concede this. I I I will not I will
not give up territory with this whatsoever.
I refuse to. It has nothing to do with being part of a club.
It has nothing to do with worrying about what the government, you know, oh, the government tells me this or some other institution tells me I'm I'm not and why
should I care for most institutions? Maybe that's the case. But not for the government. That that's it. It's it's completely unacceptable.
And the pressure on this going all the way to the top to President Trump made a difference on this. And this is
important to be a part of that fight, to be a part of standing up for this. It is
it is crucial, I believe, in in defining who the Latter-day Saints are. Not for you defining who the Latter-day Saints are for the world.
We are already of all Christian denominations seen as the lowest of all, and it might even be all religions.
and and and there's a Pew Research uh and and I'm going to mess this up a little bit here, but there was a massive I believe it was Pew that put out a a a
study asking everyone what what what is the religion you feel the best about or the lowest or the people I can't
remember. Latter day saints were at the bottom. Now, why would that be if we are the nicest people, which I believe is a
very poor excuse, a very poor uh what do we call that? got a consolation prize
for who we should be seen as. Oh, we're the nice people.
That is garbage. I'm sorry. That's garbage if that's what we're known for.
I've seen those comments also. Well, at least if people think we're nice people.
What? Get some coahones here. Stop.
No one No one becomes something. No one uh builds a bond with a savior because you're just nice and passive with some with with that's neither here nor there.
That's a different a different topic for a different episode.
Uh evangelicals on this. I do want to just cover a little bit about the evangelicals and their responses on this. on this same post that uh Mike Lee had put up.
You have as an example here Ali Beth Stucky.
And Ali Beth Stucky is uh a very influential podcaster and
YouTuber. She's got over 700,000 subscribers on her channel. Very Christian.
Very Christian. And her response to Mike Lee is why are we outside of this category of Christian is very simple.
Because unlike Christian every Christian denomination and and she she is for some reason including the the Jehovah's
Witnesses and the Christian Scientists, but she says Mormonism rejects the triune God. and and and this is for many
when it comes down to who gets into the club of Christianity.
Who is a Christian and who isn't? It comes down to something that is so interestingly I would guess I don't know this for sure but I would guess that Ali
Beth Stucky believes in soloscriptor right solos scriptor that says that the Bible is infallible and anything outside
of the Bible is is a no-go. Everything God ever wanted to say is inside of the Bible. This triune God is not in the Bible. Sorry.
There's no there's no explicit uh definition of the triune God of the trinity inside of the Bible. So what's
interesting is for those that believe in solos scriptor the number one identifier filter for being a Christian is
something that comes later on with the creeds that is not even part of the Bible.
I I find that very interesting. Now, Ellie Beth Stucky, I have heard her for a long time. I was following her when she was the same size that I was in
terms of channels going back at about, you know, maybe about 20 25,000 subscribers. I I so I've listened to her quite a bit.
She was a political commentator previously. Of course, she still comments on that, but uh she a lot of her content is very Christian now. And
and she has contempt for Mormonism. She just does as many evangelicals do unfortunately
because we don't have contempt for them except in saying we're kind of sick and tired of this. You you you can just ignore us if you want. Fine. Just ignore
us. But but the contempt, the hatred that leads to unfortunately sometimes violence
is just, you know, it's whatever whatever. I mean, we we have so many more things in common with you than you realize. But
she says this and then Mike Lee responds and says, "And therefore we're not Christians." Nonsense. Talking about the Trinity, right? So, uh, Ali Beth Stucky
comes back here and says here again, "If you disbelieve a core tenant of Christianity, her definition of
Christianity, which is not in the Bible, that Jesus is God, then no." In other words, she's going back to the
triune God, right? In other words, that Jesus is God. Period. There is no other God. There is no father that is separate
from from Jesus. Of course, we believe that Jesus is God.
We believe Jesus is God. He's just a separate being. He's a separate being.
And because you believe that they are the same being and that then you know we are and that nature is different and we
lean into that. We lean into the fact that that is different for us.
But because you believe that then then we're not Christian because you believe that that is a core tenant of
Christianity, an unbiblical core tenant of Christianity.
And I've had some evangelicals privately contact me on this uh from last week's episode and and
and say, "Hey, this isn't a big deal." And give every excuse in the world. I I don't understand this part. I don't get
it. You have not lived number one through what we have lived through.
You have not felt that persecution. You are the majority.
So you don't know. You know, we see something like this and it's like here we go again.
There were decisions made on this list and and and you could say, well, you
know, you guys are just sensitive to this because of your history and you're overdoing it. You're over you're
overreacting to this, correct? That's what I'm being told by some friendly friendly evangelicals.
And it's like, no, sorry. Sorry. I know exactly what this is. That you're you're
you're you're trying to give excuses for bad behavior. That's what I see. I think you're giving excuses for bad behavior.
And it's it's unfortunate.
And and and and we don't want to put blame. There's no reason for us to go out and say, "We're going to blame you.
We're going to blame you. But we're going to defend ourselves. We're going to defend ourselves.
At least I am. I I I know several members don't want to. And that's your prerogative.
Now, I want to go over what Glenn Beck said on this and I believe that this was just this morning. Uh this is very interesting. Glenn Beck, who is a
Latter-day Saint and by the way, who owns the Blaze network and Alli Beth Stucky is part of the Blaze. Uh,
interestingly, she put out a video, a collab video with Glenn Beck a few months ago, right around the time that my friend Jacob Hansen went on Ali Beth
Stucky's program. Uh, and they're talking about feminism in Christianity in the church. It's It's a strange
world, isn't it? It's a very strange world, but he covers a couple things here. the president actually got on the
phone with him last night and uh wanted to know more about what he had heard and what was going on. I I don't know that Glenn was the first one to talk to him.
I I think that he's probably heard an earful about this whole thing being the president. And then he got a call back
this morning saying it's done. We've changed it. We've made this change. And and so he he goes over that. Before I do that, let me cover one more thing here.
And that is the the the actual write up on this.
Wanted to cover this because a few points in here that I think are important. This is from Axios. This is a a a left-leaning
publication. But I want you to see what this says. The Department of Defense has revised its new shortened list of recognized religions after fury from
Utah political leaders over not classifying Mormonism as a Christian faith.
Now, why it matters? Let's see what they say. The omission is stoking eyeire between conservative Latter-day Saints
and see it is conservative Latter-day Saints, which is most Latter-day Saints.
But you remember what I said about progressive, they don't care. It that's what I'm saying. And and and Axios knows it because they're progressive, right?
and the rest of the religious right as some evangelical Christians reiterate claims that the Utah based faith is
demonic and a cult. And of course I get this all the time that the video that I did on on this last week.
It was ridiculous what is said on these types of topics when this type of topic is brought up. I mean, the the vitriol
from some people is is is enough that I have to sometimes block a user. Oh, you don't believe in free speech? I believe in free speech, but I don't believe in
cre making my comments section a a cesspool where people don't even want to look at it anymore.
And and that's what you get. And and it's demonic and it's a cult. And of course they don't believe that this is a Christian religion, Greg, because XYZ
cult cult cult cult demonic satanic. Oh, and Galatians 18.
It's it's preposterous, but it's sad.
It's just it's sad. But this is what this is uh how Axios puts this here.
Catching up quick, the DoD drastically reduced its list of 211 religions officially recognized for the purpose of
military chaplain services. Military.com reported last week, Mormonism is among the 31 faiths that remain. Hey, that's
great, right? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints. But unlike Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, Lutherans, Christian Scientists, and others, and and why bring these up? Well,
because there might be some feeling of, hey, they're not Christian either.
Latter-day Saints were initially listed uh Latter-day Saints weren't initially listed, it's not very good writing, weren't initially listed as Christian.
Okay. So, what drives the news? The department revised its list to remove the Christian descriptor on Monday, saying the original contained redundant
and nonnecessary labeling. Okay, that's the right move. I I I think that's the right move. I don't think that you
should categorize those denominations that that's you can be tempted to say, "Yeah, let's just put the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Saints with
Christian in front of it and add that in." Um, who are you keeping out?
It's the same problem. Well, we're in, but somebody else is out. So, I that that's that's kind of an issue that I think they need to try and stay away.
Yes. But Mormonis Mormonism's omission from the label had already produced a firestorm as members of Utah's congressional delegation.
All Latter-day Saints defended their faiths belonging in the Christian fold.
And they should. And don't think for a second that the church isn't backing them on that. I I'd be shocked if there
wasn't some phone calls that were made on this. This led to an onslaught onslaught of condemnation from others
identifying as Christians who argued the Book of Mormon is heresy and the faith founder Joseph Smith was a false prophet.
Whatever.
Again, we don't care so much that you're we'll defend ourselves when you bring this up. We'll debate you. We will
discuss this. We'll go over this. But having it officially put in in a government document and and classifying
it is a completely different issue. a completely different issue.
So, as Senator Mike Lee had said, the US government has no business recognizing the Christianity of literally every
other religious sex that worships Jesus Christ with one exception, right, which was us. So, that change was
made. Okay. And now to Glenn Beck. He had made these phone calls uh got phone
calls back from Trump and and he covers a couple of things that I think are important to listen to.
And you know uh this person is this faith is Christian, this faith is not Christian, blah blah blah. You'll never guess which faith was not Christian. It was my faith. It was not Christian.
Everybody else was totally fine. Um uh and then these are the Jews and these are whatever. Um okay. And uh I I have
to tell you, I want to be honest with you. I don't like this. Um, I don't like this in me. I I I get personally offended by that and I should not take
those things personally, but I it it bothers me when somebody attacks my faith. Um, I'm sure you feel the same way. If your faith is under attack, you feel the same way. You're like, "How dare you? Don't judge me."
Okay, let me ask you this. Okay, so for example, for you evangelicals, let's say you're part of a specific denomination.
And uh for for whatever reason, you're left unlisted in the category of
Christian. How how do how do you feel about that? your denomination, your organization within, let's say,
evangelical Christianity is left off of the list of a more complete specific list and you're not in there. How are you going to feel about that?
Just a question, little reflection. Let me just say this. I am shocked that Christians are still letting Constantine
and the Nyian creed divide lines between us. I mean, it's Constantine. I mean, read up. We're not that different at that at that moment. At that moment,
what bothers me is the division and it's unnecessary. Let me tell you what I said to the president last night. Last night, the president calls me. It's about
12:30. Yes, Mr. President. I look down and I'm like, what is that number? Oh my gosh, that is the president calling me at . So, I pick it up. Yes, Mr.
President, Glenn. And I said, uh, I said, Mr. President, why why why are we doing this? Why are we doing He didn't know anything at all about it. Okay.
Okay. So I have no doubt that he didn't know about it. I you know that there would be an approval from this uh from President Trump and he saw the details
on this would be silly. All right. When you run a massive organization, you don't know about these little things.
You you just don't. And by the way, that goes with the church, too. You don't know about all of these little things.
That's that's impossible no matter how many meetings you have. But this is uh this is not something that would have
been all the way at the top. some. But certainly Hexath knows, right? Certainly Hexath knew what this was. He saw the
list. I I'd be shocked if he didn't. And someone made the decision to keep us
out. You know, now the the the reasoning has been this is just an administrative change. And the Pentagon has said it's
no big deal. It's just administrative change. We're just sorting things out. We're just putting people in categories.
That's the problem. Okay. that okay again that is the problem. This is an administrative issue. It's not a big deal. No
decisions were made and that's how it ended up where it was. It wasn't an accident. That's not an accident. That that is a decision.
Now he goes on to you can go watch this interview yourself or this commentary yourself. But he goes on to talk about what happens when there is a change in
the government. you know what what happens when people that are not only okay maybe they don't like Latter-day Saints currently there could be some
right but I I mean it wouldn't be a shocker but what happens when there are those that don't like Christianity at all
that come in and they're put in place and they decide that uh you know based
on a certain category that you're in and we've built up this pre president precedent that XYZ policies again are going to be put into place. Now, back to
the church members. Okay, let me just show you something so you at least have this understood. If you're take is I don't care. I don't care about
the world perception. Uh I'm me. I'm in my own little corner and I have a myopic view that that only matters what I
think. That's sorry. That's that's just not true. That we we we've got to be thinking this way of how perception is
built. That is always the battle. You're worried about the family.
Well, my family's okay. I don't care what my what people say about a traditional family or a stay-at-home mom. Why would I care what the
government thinks about this? Why would I care if policy changes around this?
Why would I care about tax issues around this? Why, you know, why would I care about the perception of a traditional family and and it and it's getting worse
and people are falling away from it because my family's fine and I have this and so I don't really care. It's the
same thing. It's the same dogone thing as my dad would say. All right, I want to show you this from from the church.
Are Mormons Christian? This is on the church's website. It says here, members of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints unequivocally affirm themselves to be Christians. This is the position of the church. And it
goes on to say the reasons why they want to do this. They bring up the Jesus is the living Christ uh uh proclamation
there. And then a number of different reasons about why we don't fall into credle Christianity. It's actually very good. Are Mormons Christian? You ought to take a look at that. have another one
here from this is what do we believe about Jesus Christ uh that that covers several different
things. This is from Robert L. Millet that says Latter-day Saints are Christians on the basis of our doctrine,
our defined relationship to Christ, our patterns of worship and our way of life.
Don H. Oaks back in a talk from May of 1995, apostian restoration. This is really good. Really good, right? Just see, look at the way he talks about us.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has many beliefs in common with other Christian churches, but we have differences, right? And we can have
that. You can have both. You can walk the edge of the sword on this, but we have differences. And those differences explain why we send missionaries to other Christians.
I wish to speak about some of the important additions our doctrines make to the Christian faith which we are a part of in common with
the rest of Christianity. The rest of Christianity and we can give example over example over example of of Joseph
Smith of Brigham Young of all of the prophets and and the apostles talking about how we are Christians and that is
our belief. It is our core tenant. and you give that up. You tell the world we don't believe in the Jesus Christ of the
New Testament. I'm sorry that's what you do. Oh, you don't care what other people think. Well, I gave you reasons for why that might be important. Here are some
definitions. This is from Webster, right? What is Christian? As a noun, it's one who professes belief in the
teachings of Jesus Christ. Now I can also come in here and go to an adjective
of or relating to Christianity based on conforming of Christianity. Are we a part of Christianity? Let me ask you this.
Is believing that the Jesus of the New Testament was born to Mary in Bethlehem that he was that he healed others? That
he had taught? That he was in the garden of Gethsemane? that he suffered for our sins, that he um is any of that Christian?
Is any of that part of Christianity? Are those Christian beliefs?
Is the fact that he we believe that he was raised up on a cross and died and and and then was resurrected the third
day with a body. Is that is that Christian? Okay. So So we have Christian beliefs.
What if you are even the most adamant uh uh Christian that says that Mormons aren't Christian?
Do you concede that those are Christian beliefs?
Can you at least say, "Oh, they have some Christian beliefs." I What does dictionary.com say?
Christian as an adjective of, relating to, or derived from Jesus Christ or his teachings.
Okay? We believe in all of his teachings. We might interpret a few things different than you for, but for the most part, even there, we're pretty lock step. We're pretty locked step with you guys, with anybody else.
So again, just coming back from what was visited last week, the change was made.
I feel happy that I was a part of that, a small little part of that change. I'm happy that I fought for that. I'm happy
that others fought for that. I'm glad that people that were actually in positions of real influence and power were able to fight for that.
And and we won on this. We won on this.
Now, one fallout from this, I don't know, is if they've removed all the categories, how are other Christian denominations going to feel? you
evangelicals that especially those that are friendly with me, how do you feel about now removing Christianity from your denomination
or from your category of evangelical, say, for example, or or Catholic or whatever it might be? How do you feel about that being removed?
Okay, that's that's how we feel. That's how we feel. And it's not that we're trying to even things out for making
everything nobody's Christian. I I don't, you know, it's just that it never should have been put in place to begin with. And I stand by that 100%.
And I hope that you Latter-day Saints that don't see this as an important battle in defining who we are to the
world, I hope maybe there's a little bit of a move for you on this. Believe what
you want. Say what you want, fine. But I I think that these are important issues.
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