'Scapegoats, Vessels & A Thief'
- Finding 'genuine' teachers
- Our bodies are the temple the temple is built after
- Being prepared for the 'thief in the night'
- We are created to succeed
- Evil for Evil- Justice, cannot exist on its own
- We should 'prove all things'. That is the correct type of knowledge
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LDS Mormon New Testament Bible 1 Thessalonians
this episode we talk about scapegoats
vessels and a thief here we go
in this episode of quick media come
follow me we're going to cover first
Thessalonians this is perhaps the oldest
epistle and the oldest writing period
that we have of the New Testament
remember that as we go through the New
Testament we're not reading this in the
sequence of time right especially the
epistles from Paul they're all over the
place mostly written and placed first by
size the length of the Epistle and then
going toward the end and going
eventually to Hebrews which is very
questionable as to whether it is written
by Paul but all of the writings in the
New Testament
do not follow some kind of a
chronological order of when they were
written Thessalonians here first
Thessalonians was written before any of
the Gospels were written at least as we
can tell the oldest manuscripts that we
have from the Gospels all post date
first Thessalonians so very possible
we're getting the very earliest writing
here in the entire New Testament now
Thessalonica is a major city in Greece
so most of the cities that we're looking
at here are between Asia Minor and
Greece Thessalonica was founded in the
time of Alexander the Great
it was named after his half-sister and
as time goes on here throughout the
first century second century and beyond
when the church is formed together into
the universal church or the Catholic
Church eventually through the Creed's of
the fourth century it eventually is
going to split with the split of the
Roman Empire and you end up with the
Western Church or the Catholic Church
the Roman Church and with the Eastern
Church which eventually splits off into
two you have the eastern and what they
call the Oriental sects of Christianity
and we don't hear a whole lot about
those churches that they're very
interesting and we actually have quite a
few doctrines that are very similar to
the Eastern Churches they're also split
up
sometimes ethnically so you have the
Greek Church the Russian Church the
Serbian Church the Church of Ukraine etc
but it's a very large group and it's
estimated there's approximately 400
million members of these Eastern
Churches
but that's where Thessalonica is going
to end up it's going to end up as one of
these Eastern Churches or a part of
these Eastern Churches these Eastern
Orthodox churches are to me very
interesting they're very into symbolism
a lot of artwork very similar in that
sense to the Catholic Church they have
some doctrine that is different from the
Catholic Church they actually believe in
theosis they believe in becoming divine
or sharing somehow some divinity with
God in just a few months ago my family
and I went to a Greek Orthodox service
which was very interesting in the Greek
Orthodox service you're standing almost
the entire time
so we're standing up singing at times
listening to the priest at times and
then you sit down every once in a while
but the majority of about an hour or
more is spent standing up so if you ever
do visit an Orthodox a Greek Orthodox
Church just realize you're probably
going to be standing for a while but we
had a great experience I'm going to take
you right down to verse 6 of chapter 1
here where again and Paul is doing this
on purpose I think he starts off with
talking about imitation he uses that
term followers in English which in the
Greek is Mehmet I to mimic he says here
and he became followers of us and the
love the Lord having received the word
in much affliction with joy of the Holy
Ghost
so this is a very important concept
because Paul throughout his epistles
talks about people being imitators of
him and of the Lord and who else would
they be imitators of while outside of
the church outside of cry
you would have you'd be imitators of the
Greeks or the Gentiles or the pagans and
that's a completely different way of
life a different way of life in the
sense that it is not about forgiveness
it is not about love at its core in its
religion but it's actually eventually
about violence and so Paul as he's
preaching the gospel is saying look you
need to imitate Christ and what he did
he overcame everything which is really
at its core the violence of the world he
overcame everything by submitting and by
not retaliating but only offering love
and so he offered a perfect life as an
example number one and number two he
gave up everything including his own
life and paid the price for everybody
else through love and so he's saying
imitate that to become imitators of him
I imitate him I try to imitate him so
imitate us as leaders as well follow
what we're doing because we are
following Christ and that has a big
that's a big part of what I describe as
the fluid hierarchy right we're trying
to bind ourselves through imitating this
specific path that is tied together like
a link a chain of links that continually
moves forward but there's a prescription
for that progress and that is the
principles of the gospel that are
exemplified in Christ and especially in
his sacrifice but it says here in verse
6 that the people of Thessalonica
received the word in affliction and so
what is happening there to them is that
the Jews not the Jewish members but the
Jews that are there see the Christians
here as competition they are rivals and
so they are persecuting them and in fact
the persecution gets so bad that when
Paul is here on his second journey his
second
journey he and Silas have to leave
there's always such a battle to get the
truth out there especially when
something is starting think of the early
days of the church left and right there
are problems and struggles it just
doesn't end and you have to have someone
like Paul that is willing to go through
all of this great personal cost
and great love and duty a sense of duty
to be able to try and keep all these
things together just like Joseph Smith
there might have been people that in
some ways could have done a better job
of leading the church but there may have
been nobody better that was willing to
go through everything that Joseph Smith
had to go through that it was willing to
pay the price that he did and still have
the energy and focus and the love of the
people to keep things going then down in
verse nine just a little nuance I'm
something we've covered many times
before and how he turned to God from
idols it says to serve the living and
true God think about some of the things
that people are turning away from when
we talk about the idols right it is a
way of life it is a way of thinking
you're talking about a vain idle a dumb
idle and something where there is no
example of love there's an example of
authority but of true give everything
you have love that Christ gave for
everyone doesn't exist and so when you
accept that as the one true God in your
life what you're saying is I accept that
love from him and I want to try and be
like him that is a big big change in
thought and the pagan societies around
this time don't recognize that right
they're not familiar with that this is
an entirely new concept to them
sacrifice to them
meant giving up something like an animal
or killing a person even for the sake of
the group for the community for the sake
of their family but to sacrifice
yourself be the same way that you're
going to give up everything and to think
that God Himself gave up everything was
not a rival to you in some way playing a
game that is a very very different
thought to what the pagans here had been
taught to believe previously and then in
chapter 2 he goes through a very
interesting point that is something we
can recognize when we are dealing with
people especially with something as
important as the gospel or what we
worship and that is here starting in
verse 3 he says for our exhortation
talking about him and Silas and Timothy
the leaders of the church was not of
deceit nor of uncleanness nor in guile
so he's pointing out that this is a very
important point that you might receive
information you might receive principles
you might receive persuasion from a lot
of different areas but is it done
sincerely and it's probably a good idea
to develop that skill and try and figure
out when you're he listening to somebody
could be a salesperson is their
sincerity their or is their guile in
verse 4 he follows up and says but as we
were allowed of God to be put in trust
with the gospel even so we speak not as
pleasing men but God which try a
thoughts so that's interesting right in
other words he's going to speak some
hard things they're going to say some
difficult things you could go out and
just say things that sound good to
everybody think of things that happen
today now we're wow the Brethren could
definitely a General Conference make
some people feel a lot better
sometimes by simply capitulating
- a message that is more politically
correct but that's not their job and
they're not there for guile that would
that would be deceitful for them to do
that so they're putting a message out at
least effort efforting to continually
put a message out that is without guile
and that is sometimes going to be harsh
it's like it's like Nephi says - about
his brother brothers Laman and Lemuel
you know sometimes the truth cuts deep
and sometimes we need that sometimes we
need to hear that but we want truth
where are we going to go for truth he
says here that God tries our hearts so
he's not always going to give us
messages that sound pleasing to us and
right here in 14 he talks about how the
people of Thessalonica have become
followers Mehmet I imitators of other
churches in the areas down in Judea for
example and that they also just like
those that are down in Jerusalem and
then in the surrounding areas in Judea
have suffered because of what Paul came
out of as a Pharisee we came out of with
the climate of the Jews and the
Christians here and the chasm between
them just as they have suffered there in
Thessalonica they're also suffering
because of the same thing and he says
here in 15 talking about the Jews he
says who both killed the Lord Jesus and
their own prophets and have persecuted
us and they please not God and are
contrary to all men so what are they
doing so they have been killing the
prophets go back to Isaiah and others
that have been killed Lehi Wright was
was going to be sacrificed they were
going to kill him why it's not just
because we would look at this as black
and white where Lehi is good and the
people in Jerusalem are bad why are they
doing it yes they're evil
but what has made them evil what has
what has changed they're doing it in
what they believe is a moral cause right
they need to sacrifice Lehi
and stone him essentially for blasphemy
so that they can show that they are
right and that their moral code that
they have absorbed at that time is
correct it's the same thing in the time
of Jesus right they are saying that
Jesus is not innocent he's not some
innocent guy that we're going to
sacrifice he's guilty to them he's
guilty of blasphemy and guilty of many
other things that's why they couldn't
stand when he was when you could see the
fruits of his labor all the healing that
he did they couldn't stand it because
that's not their words and that went
against everything that they said about
him he was set up as a sacrifice because
he was guilty according to the Jews and
that's how society worked but of course
he wasn't guilty
but that's how it was with the prophets
of old as well Lehigh included they had
to be sacrificed based on a moral code
that was understood and accepted and
adopted and probably lied about by
everybody that these victims were guilty
and so blasphemy it was a great way to
bring about that guilt and that's not
just among the Jews that's among all
societies I don't want to skip over here
to chapter 4 and we get this idea from
Paul over and over again about our
bodies he uses the metaphor of a body
for the church constantly and then he
talks about personally each one of our
bodies as a temple as the tool that our
spirit is using as an adversary to us
because the body is kernel and as a
vessel to hold our spirit for us to
purify so he says here in verses 3 and 4
for this is the will of God even your
sanctification
that ye should abstain from fornication
that every one of you should know how to
possess his vessel or your body in
sanctification and honor so I like how
he comes out with that that look it puts
us into a situation where we understand
we're in a different place than we were
in the premortal life here we are in
mortality we've each been given a body
and the body isn't us in a sense right
really it's our spirit and then we're
housed our spirit is housed in this body
but the body is our vessel and it's what
gives us our emotion it what gives what
gives us context in many ways in this
world pain and pleasure etc it's what
helps us make sense of the world as our
senses and our understanding of the
world but it is a temple and really it
is the temple and I've said this before
but I think that the way Paul talks
about the body seems to me that what
he's saying is look the temples for
example the temple in Jerusalem at this
time with Paul is our bodies aren't like
that temple right that temple is like
our bodies our bodies are eternal
our bodies are what hold our spirit the
Temple in Jerusalem is going to be
brought down here within about 20 years
of this time of when Paul writes this
but our spirits in our bodies are
eternal they are the true temples and so
here he brings up fornication but think
about a temple and how its treated how
we are so meticulous about how the
grounds are or so meticulous about how
clean the temple is at all times the
carpets are redone and replaced
consistently the angles of the doorways
and everything are set just perfect and
nothing but the best is put inside of
them things that bring the spirit and so
when we think about that
think we should think more about not
just what do we consume not just about
the word of wisdom but looking at
everything that our body senses around
us and what world it is that we're
creating how are we keeping this body
clean what is our diet like what do we
really eat right what are we really
putting in there are we putting in the
cheapest worst stuff and what do we do
that with a your closest temple buy
you would that bring the spirit to the
temple and then of course we can talk
about what we see and what we hear all
of these things are being absorbed into
our body which is an intelligent vessel
and it does change based on the
experiences that we have and what we
allow in what we're putting into our
bodies so as Paul says here we should
sanctify and honor our bodies our
temples and then over in chapter 5 verse
2 for yourselves know perfectly that the
day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in
the night we've heard that what does
that mean so again I think what we have
here they may be thinking that this that
the Lord is going to come a second time
very soon and I think a lot of what Paul
talks about here as well as what John
talks about in the book of Revelation
has much as much to do with what's about
to happen in Jerusalem in 70 AD about
again about twenty years from the time
of this epistle and about forty years
after the time of Christ as it does with
us in the latter days and I think we can
see that in Matthew or we what the
sections that we have in Matthew in the
pearl of great price we can see two
different time periods but I think if
you look between the time period now
when Paul is talking in a future date
from now when the Christ is coming for a
second time what we have in between
there is a principle and that is is that
we should all be looking forward
- when Christ comes because he will come
as a thief in the night so how do we
need to live our lives no matter where
we find ourselves in that timetable are
we prepared and again he goes into this
principle a little bit more in verse 3
for when they shall say peace and safety
then sudden destruction cometh upon them
so all's well in Zion right all's well
in Zion you know it's interesting I work
a lot with the market with the stock
market and sure enough every time that
everybody is really high on the market
right at some point they're at some
point there may not be now may not be
maybe obviously didn't happen six months
ago might not be next year but at some
point when everybody's saying hey peace
and security and safety and everything's
great then BOOM right then you then you
don't have that then you have chaos and
destruction so there's a principle to
follow there that says where do I place
my risks how much risk do I put out
there and in a spiritual sense how am i
invested in my own life and in the life
of my family to absorb those times and
to prepare myself for the second coming
and he says then sudden destruction
cometh upon them and travail upon a
woman with child and they shall not
escape when that time comes for a woman
that time comes and you better be ready
right especially back then because
you're not going to change the timing on
this the Lord has his own time and
society and its patterns and its cycles
and the economies they all have their
own laws that they're following and
we're not going to change that and then
down in verse 9 a very good principle
for all of us to always remember
hopefully for God hath not appointed us
to wrath but to obtain salvation by our
Lord Jesus Christ so we are created with
the idea that we are going to be saved
and that we're going to return
successful victorious that's the whole
idea for you for me for
one that's an important thing to
understand especially for them back then
that's not necessarily what they
understood these Gentiles Greeks pagans
in the world that they lived in they
were complete puppets to the gods but we
know based on the love that God has for
us that we can count on that we can
trust that we have faith in that the
Lord wants us to succeed and that means
a lot then down in 14 and 15 he's
talking about giving service and being a
servant to those around you again
servant is a big theme and a title I
think a role that the Savior played and
that we're all supposed to play but at
15 he says something important he says
see that nun render evil for evil unto
any man so on I for an eye and a tooth
for a tooth
well that is justice but it's justice in
a vacuum it's sitting on its own and it
doesn't work in fact justice only
creates more wrath and more problems
because we're going to create enemies
we're going to create rivals and things
start spinning out of control and wars
start contention starts death starts
murder robbery all of this chaos ensues
as we render evil for evil if we live in
a place where we're going to always
offer revenge and that's the exact
opposite of what Christ taught which was
love your enemies it's a difficult
teaching very difficult teaching but it
takes that cycle that's running out of
control and spiraling downward and it
saves it and it tries to bring it back
through love and mercy one to another
and so when we talk about how justice is
going to take each of us down on its own
and we need the mercy of God to lift us
up and to save us we need the same thing
as a society you think about political
parties right now and how difficult
things are becoming right now in a very
contentious society one side against the
other
and this person said this and we need to
retaliate here and it just doesn't stop
and the stones keep being hurled back
and forth well what does that end up
being think about the end of the book of
ether now that is not so great the point
of that book and the end of that book is
to say look when you only focus on
justice and you create rivals and
enemies and you retaliate in kind
over and over again back and forth back
and forth
you're gonna start spiraling out
of control and in many ways in many
times it's going to get to a point like
it did in the book of ether where
everybody is wiped out and there's death
and carnage and evil everywhere but
that's not the way that the Lord taught
the way that the Lord taught is exactly
the opposite and then he gives a list of
behaviors again he loves giving us these
lists of how we should act and it's
great to look at because we can read it
over and over again try to absorb it
maybe put it into our subconscious so
that we behave better and we behave more
Christ-like but here at 17 he says pray
without ceasing we hear that in the Book
of Mormon also and I think one way to
look at that is not only are you
supplicating to the Lord constantly not
only are you humbling yourself and
submitting yourself to a greater power
consistently but it's understanding what
your place is in mortality again all of
these things going on you don't have
control over there are you know so many
rules and laws here where you have no
control over it prayer comes from the
same root as precarious right we live in
a very precarious world where we just
don't have control on many things now we
want to gain as much control in the
right places as we can through our
agency but understanding that we don't
have
control and leaning on the Lord and
putting faith in him I think is a pretty
good principle and I think that's what
that means if you're in a state of
prayer non-ceasingly then you're
always in a state where you're like okay
I'm binding myself to someone who does
have control in 21 we get this
suggestion from Paul prove all things
hold fast that which is good and again I
think that my personal experience is
I've seen a number of times in the
church and here I am judging but where
we don't prove all things where it
almost seems like it's blasphemy to
question something or to think about
something critically on your own and I
think that's exactly what Paul is saying
here is no you need to prove things
to yourself or try things
that's what Alma tells us right just
take that seed no matter what the new
thing is the new doctor and the new
thing that you've learned the new thing
you've heard from the Brethren take that
seed and nurture it and help it to grow
and try it prove it and then as you do
that that seed will grow and grow and
grow and bear fruit if you don't try it
then that tree is going to snap in half
when the first wind comes so we should
prove things not contentiously and not
negatively right you don't have to be
contentious and negative to question
something especially with yourself just
to yourself you can question something
and then go and learn and go and try it
and go and prove it that is the best way
to learn I don't think that the Lord
wants us to just listen and go right he
doesn't want that you think about the
great teaching about obedience which is
in the book of Moses where Adam is
sacrificing and an angel comes to him
and says well why are you sacrificing
and he says I don't know I was told to
do this
I'm doing it it's like okay that's great
obey you obey you go ahead and you obey
but he still wants to know why and the
angel tells him at that point he doesn't
go on living not ever wanting to know
what is going on I think that's
important especially in today's Internet
age
we need to inoculate ourselves against
false doctrines and flattery words and
ideologies that can take over our lives
and we do that through knowledge and
practice and then in 22 we get something
that we usually read incorrectly and
here we in 22 it says abstain from all
appearance of evil
so we oftentimes take this without
really learning it and use it as a
teaching idea of don't look like you're
doing something evil right you don't you
take on the appearance of doing
something that is evil which is a good
principle but that's not what Paul's
talking about right and we can extend
that and we kind of put that out even
further into getting a little bit more
pharisaical on our behavior or a little
more judgmental of those that are around
us but it's not even what Paul is saying
what is he saying here abstain from all
appearance of evil well the better
translation of this is abstain from
every form of evil right the appearance
of how that evil is not how you look
doing something that has nothing to do
with it it's abstain from every form of
evil pornography thievery blasphemy etc
looking at it the other way is a way for
us just to get more judgmental with each
other so Paul and his companions
teaching the people of Thessalonica do
so in a way where they have no guile and
they have complete sincerity it's
important for them to deliver a pure
message
and the message that we hear in the
gospel is not always one that is going
to be pleasing to us that's not the goal
sometimes it's going to cut a little bit
and that's okay what we want to do is
try and imitate the leaders of the
church who are trying to imitate Christ
and follow that path that is built by
charity and love staying away from other
idols that would detract us from a world
where we love our enemies and we don't
spiral out of control by creating
rivalries and these experiences that we
have in trying to be righteous are all
done within this body that we have been
given my temple that we are trying to
create throughout our mortality try to
make it the right vessel the type of
vessel that it's supposed to be in
reading Paul you can kind of hear him
speaking directly to each one of us on
these attributes these Christ-like
attributes that we should follow that
would all prepare us for an eventual
second coming of the Lord which if we're
not around when that happens we will
eventually meet him again I'll talk to
you next time
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